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posted by Fnord666 on Monday April 13 2020, @08:39AM   Printer-friendly

What Do the New Remdesivir Data Mean?:

A report has come out in the NEJM on the experience with "compassionate use" (off-label or not yet approved) of the Gilead drug remdesivir in the Covid-19 epidemic. Here are the inclusion criteria:

Patients were those with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection who had an oxygen saturation of 94% or less while they were breathing ambient air or who were receiving oxygen support. Patients received a 10-day course of remdesivir, consisting of 200 mg administered intravenously on day 1, followed by 100 mg daily for the remaining 9 days of treatment. This report is based on data from patients who received remdesivir during the period from January 25, 2020, through March 7, 2020, and have clinical data for at least 1 subsequent day.

Presented are data from 53 patients in the US, Canada, Europe, and Japan. They were in bad shape – 30 of them were on ventilators and 4 were receiving ECMO treatment (blood oxygenation outside the lungs). At the time of the manuscript's preparation, 25 patients had been discharged from the hospital, and 7 had died (6 of whom had been on ventilation). Overall, clinical improvement was seen in 36 of the 53 patients.

That's pretty much it – those are the numbers we have. The study did not even collect viral-load data, so we can't say what that was like or if it correlated with clinical outcome. What do they tell us? Not much, because this (like so many others early in this epidemic) is not a controlled study. What if you had a list of patients of similar age and gender and pre-existing conditions in similar shape, and didn't give them remdesivir, but just standard-of-care without it? We have just described an appropriate control group, and you can see why you'd want one in order to say anything useful. To be honest, those outcomes sound not unlike what you might expect from treatment without remdesivir, but who knows? Needless to say, you would also want to look at this in a lot more than 53 patients to be sure. It's effect size again: no one expects remdesivir to have miraculous get-up-and-walk effects; what effects it does have are going to be more subtle. And that means you're going to have to have a sufficiently powered (i.e. larger and well-controlled) study to see them.

The authors themselves know this well, of course, and they make no claims. Comparing the 28-day mortality in this study to others, it might be a bit better, but as the paper concludes, "Measurement of efficacy will require ongoing randomized, placebo-controlled trials of remdesivir therapy." At the moment it is literally impossible to say.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 13 2020, @09:43AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 13 2020, @09:43AM (#981892)

    You must have missed the bit about survival levels decreasing with greater melanin levels. You could more accurately claim that we are searching for a "great Black Hope against Covid-19"

    Whatever - you're still a racist pig. Would you like some lipstick, to help disguise that fact?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 13 2020, @10:23AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 13 2020, @10:23AM (#981896)

    You ever notice all the pills are white? Even the yellow ones. No, not racist, since race has no bearing on medicine or human physiology. More a matter that society makes a thing out of race, that hurts some and creates an injustice that medicine has to deal with.

    But you can check here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unfortunate_Rake [wikipedia.org]
    and here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury(II)_chloride#Historic_use_in_medicine [wikipedia.org]

    For medical advice as good as the Trump/Fox is giving.