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posted by martyb on Thursday April 16 2020, @10:52PM   Printer-friendly
from the Smoke-'em-if-you-got-'em? dept.

We received three different submissions pertaining to the effects of smoking on COVID-19. One study suggests that those who smoke have a reduced likelihood of hospitalization. The comingling of separate data for male and female patients and analysis based on that data seems unusual to me. The second report is not restricted to hospitalizations, but only to those who tested positive for the virus. Their results also suggested a lessened number of self-identified smokers than smoking rates in the general public would suggest. The third and final story submission introduced vaping to the discussion, and comes to the opposite conclusion in suggesting that smoking or vaping may increase the risk of contracting COVID-19.

Confounding these analyses is that all reports of smoking are self-reported. I can well imagine if someone had tried to quit smoking, and had convinced their spouse they had indeed stayed stopped, they would be reluctant to reveal in their spouse's presence that they were a smoker. If anything, though, would that not run counter to the possibility of a protective effect? As with most things pertaining to the virus, it is likely too early to tell for certain, but it does add another dimension to the discussion. Assuming that smoking does have a preventative effect, what could be the cause? Increased residue in the lungs makes it harder for the virus to latch onto the lung's cells and infect? Could it be that chemicals in the smoke serve to impair the virus's ability to survive in the lungs and cause an infection?

Study: Smokers Appear Less Likely to be Hospitalised with COVID-19

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/04/02/study-smokers-less-likely-to-be-hospitalised-with-covid-19/:

Smoking may reduce the likelihood of being hospitalised with coronavirus, claims a study.

Here is the abstract of the studySmoking, vaping and hospitalization for COVID-19 – by researchers at the University of West Attica in Greece and New York University.

The study presents an analysis of the current smoking prevalence among hospitalized patients with COVID-19 in China, compared to the population smoking prevalence in China (52.1% in males and 2.7% in females). Through a systematic research of the literature (PubMed) we identified 7 studies examining the clinical characteristics of a total of 2352 hospitalized COVID-19 patients that presented data on the smoking status.

The expected number of smokers was calculated using the formula Expected smokers = (males x 0.521) + (females x 0.027). An unusually low prevalence of current smoking was observed among hospitalized COVID-19 patients (8.7%, 95%CI: 7.6-9.9%) compared to the expected prevalence based on smoking prevalence in China (30.3%, 95%CI: 28.4-32.1%; z-statistic: 22.80, P < 0.0001). This preliminary analysis does not support the argument that current smoking is a risk factor for hospitalization for COVID-19, and might even suggest a protective role.

The latter could be linked to the down-regulation of ACE2 expression that has been previously known to be induced by smoking. However, other confounding factors need to be considered and the accuracy of the recorded smoking status needs to be determined before making any firm conclusions. As a result, the generalized advice on quitting smoking as a measure to improve health risk remains valid, but no recommendation can currently be made concerning the effects of smoking on the risk of hospitalization for COVID-19.

No studies recording e-cigarette use status among hospitalized COVID-19 patients were identified. Thus, no recommendation can be made for e-cigarette users.

Does smoking PROTECT against coronavirus?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8214749/David-Hockney-claims-smoking-cigarettes-PROTECT-against-coronavirus.html:

When world-famous artist David Hockney wrote a letter to the Daily Mail saying he believes smoking could protect people against the coronavirus many scoffed.

Mr Hockney wrote: 'Could it not be that smokers have developed an immune system to this virus? With all these figures coming out, it's beginning to look like that to me.'

Understandably the claim was brushed off as laughable and 'rubbish' by many.

But is it?

A leading infectious disease expert at University College London, Professor Francois Balloux, said there is 'bizarrely strong' evidence it could be true.

And data from multiple Chinese studies shows that COVID-19 hospital patients contained a smaller proportion of smokers than the general population (6.5 per cent compared to 26.6 per cent), suggesting they were less likely to end up in hospital.

Another study, by America's Centers for Disease Control of over 7,000 people who tested positive for coronavirus, found that just 1.3 per cent of them were smokers - against the 14 per cent of all Americans that the CDC says smoke.

The study also found that the smokers stood no greater chance of ending up in hospital or an ICU.

The reasons for this are unclear.

FDA Shifts Its Covid-19 Stance on Vaping, Smoking Impact

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/fda-shifts-its-covid-19-stance-on-vaping-smoking-impact/ar-BB12HeLc:

(Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Food and Drug Administration modified its stance on Covid-19 and vaping, saying it has an unknown effect on the risk of the new coronavirus, while warning that smoking can create worse outcomes.

"E-cigarette use can expose the lungs to toxic chemicals, but whether those exposures increase the risk of Covid-19 is not known," the agency said Wednesday in an emailed response to a question from Bloomberg News.

The agency had said late last month that vapers and smokers with underlying health conditions might be at higher risk from complications.

Its description of cigarettes' risks also differed from its earlier statements. "Cigarette smoking causes heart and lung diseases, suppresses the immune system, and increases the risk of respiratory infections," FDA spokeswoman Alison Hunt said. "People who smoke cigarettes may be at increased risk from Covid-19, and may have worse outcomes from Covid-19."


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  • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 17 2020, @04:39AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 17 2020, @04:39AM (#983980)

    Every time? No, you'd be angry all day every day. But maybe more than none? At least some of the ones like getting the DOD to cover for his crimes? Something more recent? His disbanding of the IG that would oversee the bailout money, or his fuckup of the pandemic response? Two totally easy instances of Trump's corruption, but again nothing. Just more "why should I be upset TDS TDS TDS."

    Just sad that you had so much to say about Obama and Hillary's corruption, but with Trump it is one excuse after another.

    You do realize that other people have memories right? We can see your behavior in one instance and compare it to another. Not to give you too hard a time while you're sorta kinda considering my point of view....

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 17 2020, @09:07AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 17 2020, @09:07AM (#984052)

    But maybe more than none? At least some of the ones like getting the DOD to cover for his crimes?

    Fallacy: Begging the question.

    What crimes? There are enough people in any department of the government who don't like Trump that if he was guilty of anything, the evidence would be leaked and he would be impeached. The most damaging allegation motivated people could bring against him was that he asked a foreign government to investigate his political opponent's corruption. I don't see anything wrong with that. All corruption should be investigated.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 17 2020, @10:20PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 17 2020, @10:20PM (#984344)

      "the evidence would be leaked and he would be impeached"

      It was, they did, the GOP decided that evidence didn't matter and they would acquit Trump no matter what.

      Lame attempt to rewrite history, you should also be ashamed of yourself.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 18 2020, @09:33AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 18 2020, @09:33AM (#984519)

        And the worst thing they could find was that he asked a foreign government to investigate corruption. That's got to make him the least criminal president in a long time.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday April 22 2020, @12:51AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 22 2020, @12:51AM (#985623) Journal

        It was, they did, the GOP decided that evidence didn't matter and they would acquit Trump no matter what.

        And the question was begged once again. What's the evidence for the crime?

  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday April 18 2020, @05:44PM

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday April 18 2020, @05:44PM (#984616) Homepage Journal

    A) What crimes and how exactly has he gotten the same DoD that refused to do anything about Clinton's undeniable criminal activity to be his bitch instead of hers?

    B1) Run of the mill corruption at most. Not worth even making note of.

    B2) There's nothing especially terrible his corona virus response. It's about what I'd expect from any President, except that he's funneled quite a bit less tax money out into boondoggles and pork than you'd normally expect.

    That you see them as especially horrible when they're nothing out of the ordinary only highlights your derangement for anyone to see. If you want people to give a shit when he actually does something bad, you need to STFU until he does something you'd want Obama's head over.

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