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posted by CoolHand on Tuesday April 21 2020, @09:28PM   Printer-friendly
from the keeping-it-legal dept.

Supreme Court rules non-unanimous jury verdicts unconstitutional

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled that defendants in criminal trials can only be convicted by a unanimous jury, striking down a scheme that has been rejected by every state except one. The court said in a divided opinion that the Constitution requires agreement among all members of a jury in order to impose a guilty verdict.

"Wherever we might look to determine what the term 'trial by an impartial jury trial' meant at the time of the Sixth Amendment's adoption—whether it's the common law, state practices in the founding era, or opinions and treatises written soon afterward—the answer is unmistakable," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in an opinion. "A jury must reach a unanimous verdict in order to convict."

Oregon is the only state left in which defendants can be convicted over the dissent of up to two jurors. Louisiana recently abandoned the practice after more than a century of use.

The ruling overturns the 2016 conviction of a Louisiana man named Evangelisto Ramos. A jury by a 10-2 margin found him guilty of killing a woman in New Orleans. Two years after Ramos's conviction, Louisiana voters approved a constitutional amendment getting rid of non-unanimous jury verdicts. The new ruling likely means that Ramos could get a new trial.

From the Ramos v. Louisiana syllabus:

In 48 States and federal court, a single juror's vote to acquit is enough to prevent a conviction. But two States, Louisiana and Oregon, have long punished people based on 10-to-2 verdicts. In this case, petitioner Evangelisto Ramos was convicted of a serious crime in a Louisiana court by a 10-to-2 jury verdict. Instead of the mistrial he would have received almost anywhere else, Ramos was sentenced to life without parole. He contests his conviction by a nonunanimous jury as an unconstitutional denial of the Sixth Amendment right to a jury trial.

Held: The judgment is reversed.


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  • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by barbara hudson on Wednesday April 22 2020, @01:56AM (5 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Wednesday April 22 2020, @01:56AM (#985645) Journal

    He lost his mind a couple of decades ago. Spammed the crap out of everywhere he could think of trying to sell his Hosts File software, which I mocked by pointing out generating a new one is a one-liner under *nix (he's a Windows luser),

    Am I "JUDEN TRASH "? First time I've had that accusation thrown at me, but if it pisses him off, sure, I'll embrace it. Oy vay!

    He's really pissed off at me since I pointed out that searches for APK Hosts File now goes to one of his competitors, who actually has their own website like a real software vendor, and that his failure to invest a few bucks in a domain and a website (because he can't afford the cost, being unemployed basically since the turn of the century - but his story keeps changing) he lost it.

    His 100+ spams every day against me on the green site led to them dropping anonymous posts. Seriously, what is the big deal with being required to log in, even with a made-up nym? Nyms aren't tied to your identity. And true anonymity on the net is almost impossible. Look at the layoffs of 1/3 of the staff at the TOR developers.

    I have anonymous posts hidden by default, but since there are child posts that are visible, I really couldn't help but see this - and it's freaking hilarious. All the libtards who insist on the sanctity of anonymous posts - this is what it gets you.

    So sad that it makes Facebook look good in comparison wrt user experience and public reach.

    Today's poll was very revealing - the average user is OLD! And people tend to lean more right-wing as they age, something that is accentuated in tech in all ages to begin with. No wonder there's a problem with misogyny on pretty much every single tech site. APK is more representative of the community than most would like to admit.

    Poor APK, but he's not the only one who takes the Internet too seriously. And with the lockdown and nothing else to do, it's going to get worse. I should be grateful that I'm part of essential services so I'm not stuck sitting in front of a keyboard trying to make myself feel relevant or sell useless software, unlike APK, who hasn't been relevant at any time since at least Win95.

    I should have stuck with my first instinct. When APK first started shitposting here, I emailed Marty and asked him to delete my account to prevent just this situation. It's obvious that as long as anonymous posts are allowed, this problem won't go away; I'm lucky because, as I've pointed out in other posts, I don't have to worry about my "internet reputation " because I can get 100 people in real life who will vouchsafe me, including the directors and co-workers at the charity I volunteer at. But it could be harmful for others who aren't as implicated in their communities, and don't have such a history. It's a cautionary tale for others in a way. Build up your real world presence or you can be harmed by such assholes.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @04:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @04:34PM (#985763)

    Your "lol he's nuts" turned into "seriously I'm real" pretty quick. Little weird.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @05:14PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @05:14PM (#985778)

    Still sore @ me kicking yer ass publicly tranny https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=33430&page=1&cid=889582#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] ? Yes, OBVIOUSLY (lol). You did that all to yourself since you are incompetent & STUPID. You "threw a fit" there after I posted that! Embarassment you caused for YOURSELF led to that, where you BEGGED the PUSSY fuck that runs this PUNY INSIGNIFICANT SITE nobody really cares about OR GOES TO site, lol - you begged to have your account deleted, lol - loser (help me mommy says barb, lol).

    Doubtless due to ALL THE DRUGS YOU ARE ON (& yes, I KNOW you are) & you SHOULD have had your account deleted. You need to be DELETED from this LIFE you sick in the head FREAK "TrAnStEsTiCuLaR MONSTROSITY".

    I haven't HAD to work for ANYONE since 2007 freak. I've told you before I RUN MY OWN BUSINESS & actually have WORTH (real worth, & you don't YOU WELFARE SUCKING "DISABLED" (by SAWING OFF YOUR COCK & BALLS since you are an INSANE whacko that did that to yourself too, OMG, lol) you BULLSHIT ARTIST TOTAL LOSER - truer words were NEVER spoken about you, loser).

    You "VOLUNTEER"? LOL - doing what?? Barbara Hudson's SUCK SERVICE for OLD HOMOS @ the VA Hospital?? LMAO - probably.

    (Some "Essential Service', lmao).

    * I hope this shithole waste of a site closes off ANON POSTS - why? Barely ANYONE comes here as is, do that, this place will go to ZERO & have to go away (& thus, so will you freak, lol)

    Most of all - you & your sockpuppet "friends" (just you most likely using multiple accounts) HAVE TO IMPERSONATE ME (since I didn't write the post you replied to)?

    It proves EVERYTHING that needs proving here - in addition to your MULTIPLE SELF-DEFEATS vs. me in the link above you CAN'T STAND since you were SO STUPID blundering mistake after mistake vs. me in its points...

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly: FREAK, I've done MORE THAN YOU EVER HAVE (anyone can see the link I posted above as to that much & they'll see results I produced that did well vs. t hreats online + TONS MORE that YES, you ARE AWARE OF in publications as well as being paid well for code I wrote that SELLS TO THIS VERY DAY from a certified Microsoft partner STUPID fucking DO-NOTHING INCAPABLE LOSER you TRULY are (& we all know it - prove otherwise - YOU CAN'T since you haven't EVER DONE SHIT of ANY worth whatsoever fucker). I do well in all things - whereas YOU do nothing but "CHATTER ONLINE" like the FUCKING FOOL FREAK TRANNY LOSER you are TWISTO - everyone KNOWS what YOU are, lol & it is DISGUSTING you RIDICULOUS ABOMINATION)... apk

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @05:49PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @05:49PM (#985796)

      2020, the year bigotry became boring.

      Like, are people still doing that lol? What an anachronism.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @05:23PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @05:23PM (#985781)

    I don't understand the problem with browsing at -1. I've done that from day one here and I've never had a problem with too much crap to sift through. Actually, there is very little here.

    If she doesn't want to engage with the plebes and low-lifers below +2, well, I guess that is her loss.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @08:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @08:25PM (#985854)

    Still sore @ me kicking yer ass publicly tranny freak https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=33430&page=1&cid=889582#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] ? Yes, OBVIOUSLY (lol).

    You did that all to yourself since you are incompetent & STUPID & a TWISTED ABOMINATION sick in the head TRANNY weirdo LOSER (but you sure TRY to "play smart" but vs. me you FELL FLAT ON YOUR FACE publicly, lol - no denying it loser).

    You also threw a raged shitfit there, calling for the PUNK SITE OWNER HERE (help me mommy, lmao) to burn your account in due to your BLUNDERING shame publicly vs. me you can't hide, hehehe!

    THEN YOU IMPERSONATED ME making it look like I APOLOGIZED TO YOU https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=35327&page=1&cid=937346#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you fucking DECEITFUL disgusting LYING TRANNY weirdo LOSER?

    Bullshit I did!

    Why WOULD I after LIES about me you spew (just a few below prove it you FUCK) & after I BLEW YOUR DUMB ASS AWAY in the link above?

    Hahahahaha - OH, the PUBLIC HUMILIATION for you, lol!

    Doubtless due to ALL THE DRUGS YOU ARE ON (& YES, I KNOW that you are) & you SHOULD have had your account deleted.

    You need to be DELETED from this LIFE you sick in the head FREAK "TrAnStEsTiCuLaR MONSTROSITY".

    Barbara Hudson LIKES TO TELL LIES ABOUT ME (projecting "its" OWN issues in being a SAW OFF ITS OWN COCK & BALLS useless loser "self DISABLED" TRANNY FREAK, lol - that's no disability, it's INSANITY clearly!)

    You lie saying I don't work OR that I haven't in "25 yrs" etc.?

    WRONG!

    I've said it MANY TIMES to YOU directly, LYING FUCK YOU ARE, that I still contract idiot but I don't HAVE to as I run my own show in other business!

    FACT: Still - I haven't HAD to work for ANYONE but myself really since 2007 freak.

    I've told you before I RUN MY OWN BUSINESS & actually have WORTH + real estate holdings galore!

    (That's MY real worth, & you barbara TOM hudson don't have SHIT, you USELESS LEECH WELFARE SUCKING "DISABLED" total BULLSHIT ARTIST twisted TRANZOID loser (by SAWING OFF YOUR COCK & BALLS since you are an INSANE whacko that did that to yourself too, OMG, lol) - truer words were NEVER spoken about you, loser).

    You "VOLUNTEER"? LOL - doing what??

    Barbara Hudson's SUCK SERVICE for OLD HOMOS @ the VA Hospital??

    LMAO - probably.

    (Some "Essential Service", lmao).

    * I hope this shithole waste of a site closes off ANON POSTS - why? Barely ANYONE comes here as is, do that, this place will go to ZERO & have to go away (& thus, so will you freak, lol)

    Most of all - you & your sockpuppet "friends" (just you most likely using multiple accounts) ARE REDUCED TO IMPERSONATING ME since you can't manage to prove me wrong in that TOPMOST LINK to your UTTER PUBLIC HUMILIATION vs. myself, in IMPERSONATIONS of ME like e.g. https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37178&page=1&cid=985582#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] (since I didn't write the post you replied to)!

    It proves EVERYTHING that needs proving here along w/ my FACTUAL STATEMENTS here too about you, scumbag TRANSTESTICLE FREAK!

    All in addition to your MULTIPLE SELF-DEFEATS vs. me in the TOPMOST LINK above you CAN'T STAND since you were SO STUPID blundering mistake after mistake vs. me in its points...

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly: FREAK, I've done MORE THAN YOU EVER HAVE or EVER WILL you USELESS no skills BULLSHIT ARTIST LAZY STUPID piece of TWISTO TRANNY CRAP FREAK ABOMINATION & you, + most likely MOST here, KNOW already!

    Anyone can see the link I posted above as to that much & they'll see results I produced that did well vs. threats online w/ @ LEAST 1/4 MILLION USERS OF MY WORK TO DATE

    + TONS MORE that YES, you ARE AWARE OF in publications in computing I have to MY NAME!

    (You don't & NEVER will loser)

    That's all in addition to my being paid well for code I wrote that SELLS TO THIS VERY DAY from a certified Microsoft partner that placed as a FINALIST @ Microsoft TechEd 2000-2002 in its HARDEST CATEGORY SQLServer Performance Enhancement 2 yrs. in a ROW you DO-NOTHING INCAPABLE imcompetent FAILURE LOSER you TRULY are!

    So, & I've asked this of you before (to SHAME your LAZY incompetent ass): YOU'VE DONE MORE/BETTER? Hell no!

    (& a LOSER you KNOW you ARE never can or will, freak (& we all know it - prove otherwise - YOU CAN'T since you haven't EVER DONE SHIT of ANY worth whatsoever you USELESS mentally TWISTED trantesticular MONSTROSITY abberration abomination). I do well in all things - whereas YOU do nothing but "CHATTER ONLINE" like the FUCKING FOOL FREAK TRANNY LOSER you are TWISTO - everyone KNOWS what YOU are, lol & it is DISGUSTING you RIDICULOUS ABOMINATION))... apk