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posted by martyb on Tuesday May 12 2020, @11:05PM   Printer-friendly
from the more-room-to-grow dept.

AMD Ryzen 4000 Zen 3 will be compatible with Socket AM4, but it is end of the road for X470, B450, and below motherboard owners

AMD's Robert Hallock has confirmed that the upcoming AMD Ryzen 4000 Zen 3 processors will be compatible with Socket AM4 as long as the motherboard features an X570 or B550 chipset. Zen 3 will not support older chipsets owing to lower space on the EEPROM of these motherboards. Future prospects of Socket AM4 depend on the industry's I/O innovation.

[...] In a blog post, Hallock confirmed that current AMD X570 and B550 chipset motherboards will support Zen 3 processors after a BIOS update. However, Zen 3 processors will not be compatible with any chipset prior to X570 or B550. This means end of the road for all those who have X470, B450 and below chipset boards. Hallock says that this decision had to be taken as due to BIOS capacity limitations on older platforms.

We've seen AMD taking a similar stance with Zen 2 as well by removing drop-in support for motherboards that have just a 16 MB EEPROM. X570 motherboards have a 32 MB EEPROM thereby enabling larger a AGESA[*] codebase to be comfortably accommodated.

Wikipedia explains that AGESA:

AMD Generic Encapsulated Software Architecture (AGESA), is a procedure library developed by Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), used to perform the Platform Initialization (PI) on mainboards using their AMD64 architecture. As part of the BIOS of such mainboards, AGESA is responsible for the initialization of the processor cores, memory, and the HyperTransport controller.

AMD blog post.

See also: AMD axes Zen 3 support on 400-series motherboards: Is AMD pulling an Intel?
AMD will use the AM4 socket through its 'Zen 3' CPUs, but it will drop older chipset support
B450 and X470 chipsets won't support AMD Ryzen 4000 processors
Hardware Unboxed: No AMD Zen 3 Support on 400 and 300 Series Motherboards
AMD Zen 3 Based Ryzen 4000 'Vermeer' Desktop CPUs Will Be Compatible With Existing AM4 (X570, X470, B550, B450) Motherboards, Confirmed By XMG (from April 16, fake news or specific to the motherboard manufacturer?)


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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday May 13 2020, @03:30PM

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Wednesday May 13 2020, @03:30PM (#993801) Journal

    Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000 desktop) = AM4, 16 cores, DDR4
    Zen 3 (Ryzen 4000 desktop) = AM4, 16 cores, DDR4
    Zen 4 (Ryzen 5000 desktop) = AM5, 24 cores? DDR5

    PCIe 5.0 was rumored for Zen 4, but they will probably kick that can down the road for desktop users.

    More memory channels? DDR5 supports 2 memory channels per module [rambus.com].

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