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posted by martyb on Wednesday May 13 2020, @06:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the really-cleaning-up dept.

Australian Broadcast Corp

The Genesis II Church of Health and Healing has been claiming chlorine dioxide is a "miracle cure".

For years it has sold the industrial bleach as Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS), stating it can cure things like autism, acne, cancer, diabetes and now COVID-19.

[...] Following an investigation [...] last week, the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) today announced it had issued 12 infringement notices totalling $151,200 to MMS Australia for alleged unlawful advertising of Miracle Mineral Solution and other medicines.

... still a long way to injecting it, right? But maybe that's for The Genesis III Church of Health and Healing


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Thexalon on Thursday May 14 2020, @02:46PM (4 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Thursday May 14 2020, @02:46PM (#994257)

    Some serious suggestions for you, if you want to be both religious and not a jerk:
    1. Do some personal study and religious practice however you see it, in your own home at your own pace, rather than meeting up on a Sunday morning to get your religious grounding. After all, that's exactly what Jesus said to do, and remarkably few self-professed Christians actually do that. For instance, if you don't own a Bible, there are lots of places to find them for free online.

    2. If you're looking for a group to hang out with on Sunday mornings, try some of the more liberal churches out there like the Unitarian Universalists or United Church of Christ. Most of them are focused a lot more on the "let's help each other out rather than be mean for a change" aspects than the "as long as you say the right things you're good" aspects.

    3. If you find yourself atheist or agnostic after all that, so be it. It's OK, really. There's a moment in the Talmud where one rabbi, I think Hillel, explains that atheists exist to prove that real charity is about helping others without some invisible figure offering you rewards for doing it.

    4. As a general rule, if someone is demanding money, especially large sums of money, to hear their ideas, they aren't a religious teacher, they're a BS artist. Treat them as such.

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  • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday May 14 2020, @08:51PM

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 14 2020, @08:51PM (#994391) Homepage Journal

    one rabbi, I think Hillel, explains that atheists exist to prove that real charity is about helping others without some invisible figure offering you rewards for doing it.

    My wife told me that. It makes sense.

  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday May 15 2020, @01:18PM (2 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday May 15 2020, @01:18PM (#994605) Journal

    Does your God drop those atheists into eternal torment for not kissing his ass anyway? Are they just useful disposable one-and-done object lessons for the Twoo Beweevils?

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    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday May 15 2020, @09:33PM (1 child)

      by Thexalon (636) on Friday May 15 2020, @09:33PM (#994776)

      Not my deity, but the Talmud is Jewish teaching, not Christian, and from what I can tell the Jewish understanding of death is that when you're dead, you're dead and what's left of you is in the ground and in the memory of people who knew you. In short, they don't really do the Heaven-Hell thing.

      The death leading to some kind of judgment leading to some kind of reward or punishment has deeper roots in Greek and Roman paganism than in Judaism.

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      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday May 16 2020, @12:45AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday May 16 2020, @12:45AM (#994827) Journal

        The Jewish ideas of the afterlife are more complex than that. The Talmud, by the way, is a lot later than the Torah and does speak of an afterlife...and the idea of eschatology itself is from the Babylonian Exile, when the Jewish elite more or less ate Zoroastrianism whole--now *there* is the most important religion no one seems to know about! The window dressing is definitely Greek and later Greco-Roman but the idea of judgment after death and, significantly, a world-ending apocalypse in which God triumphs over evil and remakes the world, is Zoroastrian to the core. And the "Saoshyant" ("benefactor") looks very, very, very Jesus-y...

        Prior to the Exile, Judaism appears to have shared the general Mesopotamian belief in a universal, more or less neutral underworld where everyone went. This makes sense, given their descent from the Sumerians/Babylonians; compare Ereshkigal and her realm of the dead with what the pre-Exilic Jews had to say on Sheol (and note how often the dishonest KJV translates the word as "Hell," a concept that didn't take hold for centuries later!).

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