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posted by martyb on Wednesday May 13 2020, @06:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the really-cleaning-up dept.

Australian Broadcast Corp

The Genesis II Church of Health and Healing has been claiming chlorine dioxide is a "miracle cure".

For years it has sold the industrial bleach as Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS), stating it can cure things like autism, acne, cancer, diabetes and now COVID-19.

[...] Following an investigation [...] last week, the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) today announced it had issued 12 infringement notices totalling $151,200 to MMS Australia for alleged unlawful advertising of Miracle Mineral Solution and other medicines.

... still a long way to injecting it, right? But maybe that's for The Genesis III Church of Health and Healing


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday May 15 2020, @01:16PM (4 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday May 15 2020, @01:16PM (#994602) Journal

    I said I *do* believe there is a God, and I also know it's not the genocidal maniac the Abrahamic religions believe it to be. I don't believe you can prove a negative, but disproving specific claims--and all religions must make these--is rather easy. My conception of God is closer to the Buddhist idea of The Absolute, and it is definitely not personal or egoic; rather, it's the ontological ground of all being and all being-ness, primitive to and therefore containing everything else that exists.

    Let me put this clearer: the God-figure of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is either a myth or a demon or both, but by the definition of what it means to *be* God, Yahweh is a failure. Not only is he not God by that very definition, he's basically, to use a topical example, a Bronze-deified Age Donald Trump.

    That's not just me being pissy: Trump's behavior resembles an unhinged ancient-near-east deity, and if you read your Bible closely, you'll see signs of the same mental pathologies. Yahweh is very obviously a sadist and a narcissist, for example.

    The "inner voice" isn't God speaking. All functioning humans have this. It's not divine, it's your mirror neurons and your theory of mind at work. You're *normal.*

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    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
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  • (Score: 1) by anubi on Sunday May 17 2020, @11:02PM (3 children)

    by anubi (2828) on Sunday May 17 2020, @11:02PM (#995495) Journal

    Thanks! And sorry for the misquote. My bad.

      "If there is a God, and I believe there is, it is *not* the demonic abomination described either in the Bible or the fragmented, schizophrenic version of him popularized in American Christianity of any stripe. That thing doesn't have the morals of a reasonably bright kindergartener."

    Even talking about this kind of stuff gets a lot of people's feathers ruffled. I am glad we all aren't conditioned to not question things. Especially if someone's leadership model is in question.

    I feel blind acceptance of other people's pontifications will just lead us all into slavery subordinate to those who pontificate.

    And I do not want to give up the fruit of my labors to a gasbag.

    --
    "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday May 18 2020, @01:38PM (2 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday May 18 2020, @01:38PM (#995751) Journal

      You're missing the point: Yahweh, the Abrahamic God-figure, is either mythological or demonic or both. He doesn't meet any definition of what it means to *be* God, and whoa-hoooo, Dan, do apologists twist themselves into blasphemous eye-watering knots when you get them up against a wall and point that out. "He is good because he is maximally concordant with his own divine nature" is an actual sentence a Catholic apologist said to me.

      Leave the Abrahamic religions behind. Not only are they hideous tales of genocide, not only is their God-figure a very obvious product of his time (and a malignant narcissist), but the ideas themselves are blasphemy. No actual God would or indeed could act like that.

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      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 1) by anubi on Monday May 18 2020, @08:47PM (1 child)

        by anubi (2828) on Monday May 18 2020, @08:47PM (#996007) Journal

        You've given me a lot to think about and bring up among other searchers. This does not bode well with established preacher-men, but I often learn a lot if I can get them on a roll and discover ulterior financial and power motives. It usually ends up with me calling them power mongers, and them calling me as led by Satan.

        My tag line cites my take on it precisely.

        Thanks for confirming I am not being disobedient to God only because I smell a rat and need to personally satisfy my desire for truth. Especially when it is so apparent that many hucksters will do anything for a buck, or get people to get on their bandwagon. Highly skilled masters of leadership and marketing. It's hard to stand up to them and their persuasion.

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        "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday May 19 2020, @12:43AM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday May 19 2020, @12:43AM (#996104) Journal

          Anubi, it's *not* about the hucksters and conmen. The God-figure of the Abrahamic religions is demoniacal if it even exists at all. The grifters are an inexorable consequence.

          Cruel Gods make cruel men. The screams of the various Inquisitions' torture victims echo throughout history, and every single torture campaign was itself only a small, temporal, worldly version of what its executors wholeheartedly believed their victims would get--and *deserved* to get--for all of literally-God-damned eternity afterwards.

          This is not a set of religions with a benevolent or even neutral God-figure. This is a group of death cults, headed by a either a demon or a myth. And on that note, ever ask yourself why the "unforgivable sin" isn't murder, or rape, or child molestation, or even fucking *genocide,* but "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?" That's a very, *very* demonic thing to do: make the one unforgivable sin "calling me out for exactly what I am."

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          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...