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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday May 13 2020, @08:42PM   Printer-friendly
from the not-completely-unexpected dept.

COVID-19 resurges in reopened countries; Wuhan sees first cluster in a month:

The World Health Organization on Monday called for continued vigilance as several areas that have eased lockdown restriction began to see a resurgence in COVID-19 cases—and the United States begins unbuttoning as well.

The Chinese city of Wuhan—where the pandemic began last December—saw its first cluster of cases in at least a month. The city began reopening in early April.

The cluster was just six cases: an 89-year-old symptomatic man and five asymptomatic cases. All of the infected lived in the same residential community.

[...] NPR's Emily Feng reported from Beijing that "The rise of such hard-to-detect asymptomatic cases has alarmed public health authorities in China, who have ramped up contact tracing and testing efforts."

China state media announced Tuesday that it has ordered all residents of Wuhan—roughly 11 million persons—to be tested within the next 10 days.

Likewise, the mayor of Seoul shut down bars and restaurants over the weekend—just days after South Korea had eased restrictions and allowed businesses to reopen—due to a spike of 86 new COVID-19 cases. Authorities identified a 29-year-old who visited five nightclubs and a bar while infected with the virus, sparking an outbreak of at least 54 cases, according to NPR. The uptick also led South Korean officials to delay the reopening of schools.


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @12:32AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @12:32AM (#994026)

    Go expose yourself to this [vox.com]

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  • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @01:25AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @01:25AM (#994060)

    Yea, I would much rather do that than this vaccine.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @02:16AM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @02:16AM (#994070)

      > Yea, I would much rather do that than this vaccine.

      Where is the "create your own mod" option when I want it? Right now I want the "anti-vaxxer idiot spotted" mod.

      More seriously, there is no current vaccine for Covid019. Setting yourself dead against something that doesn't even exist sounds like a fairly major brain disorder.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @05:31AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @05:31AM (#994122)

        So the answer is no. Getting immunity via natural infection by the virus is not acceptable. We all must get the vaccine.

        So it isn't immunity you care about, it is people getting vaccinated.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday May 16 2020, @01:30AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 16 2020, @01:30AM (#994834) Journal

          Getting immunity via natural infection by the virus is not acceptable.

          Yes, because getting immunity via natural infection means a really good chance of two weeks of suffering with an elevated chance of dying.

          So it isn't immunity you care about, it is people getting vaccinated.

          It's not immunity we care about, but immunity via a low risk approach.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @06:43AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @06:43AM (#994144)

        I'm a different AC than the one you replied to. One need not be an anti-vaxxer to have concerns about a vaccine for this coronavirus.

        SARS was a coronavirus, fairly similar to SARS-CoV-2. Candidate vaccines were developed, but animal testing showed that the vaccines led to immune hypersensitivity [nih.gov]. The SARS-CoV-2 candidate vaccine produced by Moderna has apparently produced very encouraging preliminary results [geekwire.com]. Notably, Moderna's technique differs from the SARS candidate vaccines, but is unproven at successfully producing vaccines. But the desire to produce a vaccine quickly has led to some corners being cut, including conducting animal trials at the same time as human trials [statnews.com]. Because of the known issues with the SARS vaccine and the very accelerated trials for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, I have concerns about their safety.

        Let me be clear. Vaccines are safe, effective, and necessary for public health. I'm not an anti-vaxxer. But I have concerns about the safety about SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. I'd want to see compelling evidence that a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine is safe and effective before I'd be willing to receive this particular vaccine. With proper trials and sufficient time to demonstrate their safety and efficacy, I'd be willing to receive a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine -- but I'd want to be damn certain that it is, indeed, safe.

        • (Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Saturday May 16 2020, @01:49AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 16 2020, @01:49AM (#994838) Journal
          From the article:

          and while it isn’t enshrined in law, researchers almost always check that a new concoction is effective in lab animals before putting human volunteers at potential risk.

          You wrote:

          But the desire to produce a vaccine quickly has led to some corners being cut, including conducting animal trials at the same time as human trials.

          What was supposed to be the problem with that corner cutting? The first phase of human testing is merely to determine the safety of the vaccine in humans. That is, how safe is the vaccine? That can be done at the same time as animal testing to verify the effectiveness of the vaccine. They already tested the safety of the vaccine in animals FWIW. It's faster and riskier than traditional approaches (since human testing tends to be much more costly and effectiveness testing in animals tends to be a common place where rejections happen).

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @03:05PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @03:05PM (#994265)

        Now you understand TMB's AC posting strategy.