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posted by martyb on Wednesday May 20 2020, @03:54AM   Printer-friendly
from the scarlet-letter dept.

Alcohol-fuelled crime offenders may have to wear 'sobriety tags':

[English and Welsh] Courts will have the power to order those convicted of drink-related crimes to wear an ankle monitor for up to 120 days. It assesses whether there is any alcohol in their sweat.

[...] Keith Hunter, the police and crime commissioner (PCC) for Humberside, said: "During the trial in our area they provided rehabilitation agencies a real opportunity to work with the individual and get them to recognise and change their behaviour.

[...] The tough community sentences not only punish offenders, according to the Ministry of Justice, but also help their rehabilitation by forcing them to address the causes of their harmful behaviour.

They will not be used on people who are alcohol-dependent or have certain medical conditions. Judges have been calling for many years for tougher non-custodial sentences.

An unidentified offender, who wore one of the tags in the Humberside, Lincolnshire and North Yorkshire pilot scheme, said: "Since I had the tag removed I feel 100% in control of my drinking. I was worried to begin with that when I had the tag taken off I might go back to drinking again but the process gave me a better understanding of alcohol. I also didn't want to go back to court.

"I no longer need a drink to manage my emotions which is down to the tag and my probation officer – I'm much happier with my life now and pleased that more people can benefit from my experience of wearing the tags."

First they came for the socialists and I did not speak out...

[Editor's Note: Corrected spelling of Welch to Welsh 2-May0515UTC--JR]


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 20 2020, @05:15AM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 20 2020, @05:15AM (#996753)

    It's Welsh you ignorant redneck.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday May 20 2020, @05:21AM (5 children)

    The really funny bit? Janrinok seconded the story and he's a Brit.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 20 2020, @06:35AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 20 2020, @06:35AM (#996770)

      Janrinok seconded the story and he's a Brit.

      But not a Welch?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 20 2020, @08:12AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 20 2020, @08:12AM (#996793)

      Jan welshed on spelling, typical limey class.

    • (Score: 5, Touché) by janrinok on Wednesday May 20 2020, @08:35AM (2 children)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 20 2020, @08:35AM (#996799) Journal
      and he corrected the spelling to 'Welsh' too ....
  • (Score: 2, Informative) by pTamok on Wednesday May 20 2020, @08:11AM (4 children)

    by pTamok (3042) on Wednesday May 20 2020, @08:11AM (#996792)

    It's Welsh you ignorant redneck.

    Actually, Welch is just a currently lesser used alternative to Welsh. Wiktionary: welch [wiktionary.org]

    The Google Ngram viewer shows that at times, Welch was the more frequently used option. Google Ngram Viewer: "Welsh man" vs "Welch man" [google.com]

    "Welsh man" is the more popular form now, but if you look at the time period from 1925 to the present, you can see that in the corpus dating to the 1950s that "Welch man" at times was more popular. So I wouldn't say it is wrong to write Welch, simply unusual, whereas it would be wrong to write "Weltch man", even though that would be pronounced in a very similar way.

    • (Score: 1) by pTamok on Wednesday May 20 2020, @08:14AM (3 children)

      by pTamok (3042) on Wednesday May 20 2020, @08:14AM (#996794)

      Doh! I used the wrong Wiktionary entry. Never mind, here it is: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Welch [wiktionary.org]

      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday May 20 2020, @08:43AM (1 child)

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 20 2020, @08:43AM (#996800) Journal

        Try looking up "Welch National Anthem" in Wiki - it responds with 'Do You Mean Welsh?'. I've not seen the other spelling for over 60 years now, and even then it was rare. So I wouldn't say it was as much of an alternative rather an archaic spelling of the word. I haven't found a UK dictionary or spell checker that acknowledges the welch form unless it is to mean something like to 'welch on a deal'.

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by pTamok on Wednesday May 20 2020, @09:09AM

          by pTamok (3042) on Wednesday May 20 2020, @09:09AM (#996804)

          The spelling checker in LibreOffice is happy with "Welch", and suggests "Welch" as an alternative for the mis-spelling "Walch" in the sentence:"I met a Walch man in Cardiff.".
          It is understandable that spelling checkers offer the most frequently used option as the correct one. It seems like unnecessary complexity to offer low-frequency alternative spellings, so I can understand that most would not.

          Note that one needs to distinguish between the noun and adjectival forms of the word spelled with an initial upper-case letter, and the verb-form, spelled with a lower-case initial letter.

          Archaic spellings are not wrong as such, just not used often. I quite like them as a link back to etymological history, and as a celebration of diversity and change and development in language.

      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday May 20 2020, @10:06AM

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 20 2020, @10:06AM (#996819) Journal

        Interestingly - to me at least - the only regular usage I can currently find is the Royal Welch Fusiliers and The Welch Regiment. The former, a Welsh regiment of the Prince of Wales' Division, was founded in 1689. Most recently they have served in Iraq. However it is the Welsh Guards and the Royal Welsh - neither of them uses the 'Welch' variant.