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posted by janrinok on Tuesday May 26 2020, @07:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the competition-is-good,-right? dept.

Intel and AMD shouldn't panic yet, but this Chinese vendor has repacked a Xeon CPU:

Jintide Montage might sound like the name of a punk group, but it's not. In fact, the Montage is an x86 processor with PrC (Pre-Check) and DSC (Dynamic Security Check) technologies that can be used in Jintide or other server platforms.

It shares common DNA with Intel, AMD and VIA and uses Skylake Xeon silicon at its core - and has already entered mass production.

According to the marketing materials, Jintide uses Tsinghua University's DSC technology to achieve "high-speed IO tracing, memory tracing and CPU behavioral checking via its built-in security check engine."

[...] In other words, expect it to be used for anything from website hosting to VPN and cloud storage.

From the available information, we can tell this is not a consumer processor and there's no Core CPU coming from Jintide any time soon. The Montage is also aimed exclusively at the Chinese market, perhaps extending to the country's close allies.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @07:40PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @07:40PM (#999343)

    Isn't it how "built-in security check engine" translates from marketspeak?

    In other words, expect it to be used for anything from website hosting to VPN and cloud storage.

    In other words, expect it to be government-mandated for everyone in China and "the country's close allies" at first opportunity. Unless something more immediate like economic crash or civil war takes the corresponding regimes' attention off their shared wet dream of countrywide electronic concentration camp.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Thexalon on Tuesday May 26 2020, @07:58PM (9 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday May 26 2020, @07:58PM (#999351)

    an x86 processor with PrC

    After all, there's nothing suspicious about the People's Republic of China putting out something called "PrC" technology.

    That said, I'm sure that if the US were manufacturing these chips, there would be similar bugs in place for the NSA.

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    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @08:45PM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @08:45PM (#999369)

      That said, I'm sure that if the US were manufacturing these chips, there would be similar bugs in place for the NSA.

      Obviously.
      https://libreboot.org/faq.html#intel [libreboot.org]
      https://libreboot.org/faq.html#amd [libreboot.org]
      However, NSA and a chinese or russian commoner have negligibly little reason to care about each other. While conversely, the countries' ruling parties cannot stop meddling in every aspect of their subjects' life.
      Even the citizens of the same country as NSA, still have less reason to care; last I heard, USA not only does not run concentration camps yet, but even sanctioned PRC for doing so.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @08:58PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @08:58PM (#999371)

        》 last I heard, USA not only does not run concentration camps yet, but even sanctioned PRC for doing so.

        Typical ignorant American... ask your Japanese-American friends about Owen's Valley, Manzanar, etc

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @09:01PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @09:01PM (#999372)

          Dorothea Lange even took photos of them for you.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @09:41PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @09:41PM (#999386)

          > Typical ignorant American... ask your Japanese-American friends about Owen's Valley, Manzanar, etc

          Typical cheap propaganda bot. Ask your Russian bosses of GULAG.
          Besides, no amount of last-century stuff gives the todays' rulers an indulgence for new atrocities. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @09:57PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @09:57PM (#999394)

          Ask your Muslim friend about the Xinjiang camps.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 28 2020, @12:23AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 28 2020, @12:23AM (#999988)

          Who had up a Japanese Internment camp exhibit in their visitor center/trading post ~20-25 years ago to help shine light on the Japanese Americans plight (this was around when those '40k' repayment things were getting doled out) as well as how flexible the Federal government is in respect to Indian Reservation's sovereignity when they go and plunk internment camps involuntarily on native reservations rather than putting them on any of the millions of acres of BLM land the US government manages instead.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Tuesday May 26 2020, @09:12PM (1 child)

        by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday May 26 2020, @09:12PM (#999374)

        USA not only does not run concentration camps yet

        No, just the largest prison population in the world, plus all those immigration facilities where they've locked up some unknown number of kids forever for the heinous crimes of being brown, talking funny, and going someplace their parents forced them to go.

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        The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @11:34PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2020, @11:34PM (#999413)

          larger than china.. well they tend to kill you first or just have more people. unless their prison numbers are as accurate as covid deaths

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Tuesday May 26 2020, @11:52PM

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday May 26 2020, @11:52PM (#999418) Journal

        last I heard, USA not only does not run concentration camps yet, but even sanctioned PRC for doing so.

        You got some catching up to do... Guess you haven't heard about their little Caribbean getaway... Samba macht frei...

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        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
  • (Score: 1) by NPC-131072 on Wednesday May 27 2020, @12:03AM

    by NPC-131072 (7144) on Wednesday May 27 2020, @12:03AM (#999424) Journal

    YouTube may already be testing [theverge.com] these processors

  • (Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Wednesday May 27 2020, @01:02AM

    by PinkyGigglebrain (4458) on Wednesday May 27 2020, @01:02AM (#999444)

    Isn't it how "built-in security check engine" translates from marketspeak?

    so does "Intel Management Engine"

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    "Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."