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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday May 31 2020, @02:42PM   Printer-friendly
from the the-king-is-dead dept.

135-year-long streak is over: US renewable sources topped coal in 2019

Two weeks ago, we covered a US Energy Information Administration (EIA) projection that renewable wind, solar, and hydroelectric power would top coal for total electricity generation in 2020. That was particularly believable given that renewables had beat coal in daily generation every day going back to March 24. As it happens, that daily streak finally came to an end this week, as coal picked up amid rising demand and a couple low days for wind. Coal likely topped renewables on Tuesday, although it's possible that rooftop solar generation (not included in EIA's daily data) extended the run until Wednesday.

But the EIA also released some numbers Thursday that highlight a related and interesting piece of trivia: if you include energy use beyond the electric sector and all types of renewable energy, renewables actually beat out coal last year. And to find the last time that was true, you have to go all the way back to the 1880s.


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  • (Score: -1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 31 2020, @05:09PM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 31 2020, @05:09PM (#1001425)

    And get silenced about anything the owners of propaganda outlets do not want. Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson#Comments_on_race [wikipedia.org]
    You cannot get any more qualified to have an expert opinion on genetics than the discoverer of its mechanism; still, he got muzzled just like any common peon.

    Till the lefties' propaganda machine is dismantled and their influence on the grants system balanced out, any noises made about "following scientific recommendations" are disingenuous at best. For really obvious reasons.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 31 2020, @07:35PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 31 2020, @07:35PM (#1001473)

    Till the lefties' propaganda machine is dismantled and their influence on the grants system balanced out, any noises made about "following scientific recommendations" are disingenuous at best. For really obvious reasons.

    Sure. That's about as valid as claiming that the truth has a left-wing bias (which, if it is actually true, implies that the right wing holds the greater amount of lies).

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 31 2020, @10:11PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 31 2020, @10:11PM (#1001518)

      Remember, believing your own propaganda is the first step on the road to ruin.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 01 2020, @03:52AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 01 2020, @03:52AM (#1001596)

        Remind me again, which news network has a higher proven track record of lies and misinformation?

        Just to preclude your bullshit reply to a rhetorical question, the answer is Fox News. Thankfully for you that doesn't include the talk show programs the spew terrorist level propaganda.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Sunday May 31 2020, @08:32PM (5 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Sunday May 31 2020, @08:32PM (#1001490)

    So your argument is "Some people revoked James Watson's awards because he's racist, ergo all studies about air and water pollution and their effects on humans are all wrong"? That's a non-sequitur if I've ever seen one.

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    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 31 2020, @10:08PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 31 2020, @10:08PM (#1001516)

      Do tell.
      If the logic chain "When one of the most distinguished scientists on the planet Earth, when communicating an opinion in the area of his expertise, is tagged "racist" on a signal, and materially harmed, instead of listened to with respect, any other scientist will either never communicate an opinion not approved by the signal-givers, or never get listened to; therefore all the studies that the signal-givers do not suppress, in the areas of their political interest, do nothing but parrot the signal-givers' agenda" is actually non-obvious to you, however, receive my pity.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 01 2020, @02:32AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 01 2020, @02:32AM (#1001578)

        one of the most distinguished scientists on the planet Earth

        For those of a certain age, he was certainly one of the widely known names. I don't know about the "most distinguished" part. There is a difference between the two. Some times they go hand in hand and sometimes not. In fact, E.O. Wilson (who would be on the same dias as Watson) once described him as "the most unpleasant human being that I've ever met."

        The problem he had was that he was just saying the same eugenics based arguments that have been said for over a hundred years. All of his statements were not backed by any science, just his gut feelings, and these were feelings and hunches he had his whole life. He didn't support these statements with identifying which was the "smart" gene predominantly seen in the Jews, or likewise the "dumb" gene seen in blacks or women, and in effect he was just making the same noises that you hear from your old racist uncle at Thanksgiving. And when he was known for saying other things like "you really feel bad interviewing a fat person because you know you aren't going to hire them," well, yes, he basically comes off sounding like your crazy racist uncle. It had nothing to do with "virtue signaling" and everything to do with him sounding like a racist uncle.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 01 2020, @06:20AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 01 2020, @06:20AM (#1001623)

        You picked the wrong hill to die on. While you have a valid point about the suppression of politically incorrect results, it is going to get lost in the noise. Right or wrong about the genetics, Watson is genuinely racist.

        You also have the problem of suppression of profit-damaging results, and I think that's actually a bigger problem.

    • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday June 01 2020, @12:26AM

      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Monday June 01 2020, @12:26AM (#1001558)

      It's projection.

      They're called Anonymous Cowards for a reason.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by c0lo on Sunday May 31 2020, @11:35PM (1 child)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 31 2020, @11:35PM (#1001540) Journal

    Till the lefties' propaganda machine is dismantled and their influence on the grants system balanced out, any noises made about "following scientific recommendations" are disingenuous at best. For really obvious reasons.

    Bush administration suppressed and distorted climate scientific reports [ucsusa.org]

    Trump administration suppressed suppressing scientific information [eos.org]

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 01 2020, @05:07PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 01 2020, @05:07PM (#1001784)

      It is not really smart to expect the other side to play a giveaway game forever and ever, now is it? A "scientist" wants to follow the leftist agenda for whatever reason, let him do it on the leftists' dime.

      This is THE danger of the mercenary science; you cannot rely on scientific validity of ANY result, so basically you've got no science AT ALL. Enjoy your "win", and keep looking away from the ruins.