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posted by martyb on Friday June 05 2020, @04:22AM   Printer-friendly
from the the-elephant-in-the-room dept.

A serious divide exists among Trump advisers over how to address nights of protests and riots in US after Floyd's death

Trump is being urged by some advisers to formally address the nation and call for calm, while others have said he should condemn the rioting and looting more forcefully or risk losing middle-of-the-road voters in November, according to several sources familiar with the deliberations.

[...] During a staff call Friday, Trump's top domestic policy aide Brooke Rollins argued for a measured response to riots the night before, advice that was echoed by Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner. Several advisers feared, and hoped to avoid, another Charlottesville moment, when Trump was criticized after declaring in 2017 that "very fine people" were among the Nazi mobs that descended upon Charlottesville, Virginia.

[...] While aides like Kushner have pushed for a more restrained response, Trump is also hearing from several advisers who warned that by not condemning the protests after the death of Floyd, an unarmed 46-year-old black man, that turned into rioting and looting, he is risking losing some demographics that will be key to his election victory in November, like suburban women voters.

As Protests and Violence Spill Over, Trump Shrinks Back

The president spent Sunday out of sight, berating opponents on Twitter, even as some of his campaign advisers were recommending that he deliver a televised address to an anxious nation.

how the George Floyd protests left Donald Trump exposed

“Americans watching this address tonight have seen the recent images of violence in our streets and the chaos in our communities. Many have witnessed this violence personally, some have even been its victims. I have a message for all of you: the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon – and I mean very soon – come to an end.”
These were the words of Donald Trump, not in May 2020 but July 2016, as he accepted the Republican presidential nomination at the national convention in Cleveland.

[...] Not even Trump’s harshest critics can blame him for a virus believed to have come from a market in the Chinese city of Wuhan, nor for an attendant economic collapse, nor for four centuries of slavery, segregation, police brutality and racial injustice.

But they can, and do, point to how he made a bad situation so much worse. The story of Trump’s presidency was arguably always leading to this moment, with its toxic mix of weak moral leadership, racial divisiveness, crass and vulgar rhetoric and an erosion of norms, institutions and trust in traditional information sources. Taken together, these ingredients created a tinderbox poised to explode when crises came.

Antifa: Trump says group will be designated 'terrorist organisation'

"It's ANTIFA and the Radical Left. Don't lay the blame on others!" Mr Trump tweeted on Saturday.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Friday June 05 2020, @08:26AM (13 children)

    by hemocyanin (186) on Friday June 05 2020, @08:26AM (#1003629) Journal

    Calm? Trying to get the cold war rekindled over election sour grapes is calm?

    It seems there has been such a constant barrage of Trump==Hitler for so long, it's just hard to tell when you guys are serious.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @08:51AM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @08:51AM (#1003641)

    Well, they both are Germans. Trump's Mother seemed to have little influence over him, just like Hitler's mother. And they both hung out with hot women, actresses, mostly blonde. And the called for the use of military force, like to break treaties, and were vegetarian. So the comparison of Trump to Hitler is hardly idle chatter, especially now that the Reichsstag St. John's cloakroom were set on fire, and Trump is screwing himself up to declare himself Chancellor. Literally Hitler. The parallels are uncanny.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by hemocyanin on Friday June 05 2020, @09:13AM (7 children)

      by hemocyanin (186) on Friday June 05 2020, @09:13AM (#1003645) Journal

      Aside from millions of people being gassed and burned.

      It's a really disgusting comparison in that context.

      • (Score: 5, Touché) by Aegis on Friday June 05 2020, @01:39PM (5 children)

        by Aegis (6714) on Friday June 05 2020, @01:39PM (#1003717)

        The gassing and burning happened started in Hitler's second term....

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @03:14PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @03:14PM (#1003770)

          The fear of the average German to say anything against Hitler or the Nazi party started very soon after he took power.

          Who is afraid to call Trump Hitler, or any other vile accusation against him, at the cost of their livelihoods, or their lives? No one.

          Who is afraid to say anything negative about whatever the Alphabet People have come up with this week, or negative about any black person anywhere in the land, at the cost of their livelihoods, or their lives? Everyone.

          You call Trump, and anyone else you don't like, Hitler in order to pre-empt the analogy being used against yourself, and with far more reason.

          • (Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Friday June 05 2020, @03:57PM (1 child)

            by hemocyanin (186) on Friday June 05 2020, @03:57PM (#1003800) Journal

            Yep -- it's projection.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @04:44PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @04:44PM (#1003821)

            Better "Lock Her Up" just to create a nice cooling effect, right?

          • (Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Friday June 05 2020, @07:31PM

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday June 05 2020, @07:31PM (#1003914) Journal

            The fear of the average German to say anything against Hitler or the Nazi party started very soon after he took power.

            Was it a result of, say, teargassing protesters who are committing no crimes so Hitler could do a photo op?

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @06:20PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @06:20PM (#1003875)

        Never happened, you brainwashed fuck. Boleshevik Jew lies.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @03:09PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @03:09PM (#1003768)

      Trump is a vegetarian?

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday June 05 2020, @04:36PM (1 child)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 05 2020, @04:36PM (#1003817) Journal

        (it is well known Trump likes steaks)

        I don't remember where I read the following:

        He likes his steaks well done.
        Very well done.
        Almost burnt.
        To the point where the steak has curved, is fairly solid and will rock back and forth on the plate.
        Then he smothers it with ketchup.

        Now I can understand how an adolescent taste might like that. But I wouldn't call it refined.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @04:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 05 2020, @04:47PM (#1003823)

          That's the preferred way to cook Trump steaks BTW. Your lack of class is showing.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @12:31AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @12:31AM (#1004015)

        Caught one! Trolling is good, today. Hey, did you know both Trump and Hitler were functional illiterates? Both had their books written by ghost-writers, or geistlichescriberlin.