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posted by martyb on Wednesday June 10 2020, @01:46PM   Printer-friendly
from the setting-a-breakpoint-so-humans-can-try-to-debug-a-code-(of-conduct) dept.

FreeBSD has announced a new LLVM-derived code of conduct.

According to a 2018 survey "35% were dissatisfied with the code of conduct adopted in 2018, 34% were neutral, and 30% were satisfied." So, they held another survey at the start start of June:

Which code of conduct should FreeBSD adopt?

Retain the current code of conduct:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200108075747/https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html

RESULTS

  • 4% favoured keeping the current code of conduct
  • 33% favoured the Go-derived code of conduct
  • 63% favoured the LLVM-derived code of conduct.

Thus, the Core Team, following the preference of a majority of active
FreeBSD developers, adopted the LLVM-derived code of conduct.


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  • (Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @04:37PM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @04:37PM (#1005860)

    Actually, the main points [github.com] seem more like something your mother should (but apparently didn't -- bad on her) have taught you:

    be friendly and patient,
            be welcoming,
            be considerate,
            be respectful,
            be careful in the words that you choose and be kind to others,
            when we disagree, try to understand why.

    I didn't realize that being "friendly and patient" or any of those others were "hard Left" positions.

    Or are you referencing stuff that isn't, in fact, in the CoC [github.com]? If so, you're either ignorant or being deliberately disingenuous.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @05:47PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @05:47PM (#1005898)

    This [archive.org] is the crap they had. The current version is rolling back most of the shit they puked out initially without having the balls to admit that this entire code of conduct stuff is complete nonsense that only exists because of virtue signaling and the fear of being seen as 'bad'.

    There's a major problem with any avenue that drives a motivation to virtue signal. When people virtue signal they always want to push the envelope of unacceptability because it emphasizes their own righteousness. Historically religions were the obvious example. Christianity was a derivative of Judaism. And one way they chose to push the edge of virtue signaling was celibacy. Christian priests were so devout and devoted that they cast aside even sex. Of course, like with all virtue signaling, it's mostly bullshit. Behind the scenes the priests were of course getting off like everybody else to the extremes of modern times where diddling kids became a trend. What virtue! And the trend continues with the numerous modern 'secular religions'.

    Virtue signaling is not a virtue, it's a fucking stain on this world. If you want to be a good person, be a good person. When somebody is trying to flaunt their virtue, or even worse impose it on others, they're likely playing the exact same role we've had with the ultra homophobic politicians who were deep throating more sausages on the weekends than vegans do when they think nobody's looking.

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @05:59PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @05:59PM (#1005905)

      This [archive.org] is the crap they had. The current version is rolling back most of the shit they puked out initially without having the balls to admit that this entire code of conduct stuff is complete nonsense that only exists because of virtue signaling and the fear of being seen as 'bad'.

      And now they don't. Your point?

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @06:24PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @06:24PM (#1005926)

        The point is, the more shit you shovel into the gears of society, the faster it grinds to a halt.
        Take note that when it does, all those nice things you now expect to be given you for "being good", will only be available in exchange for something tangible. If at all.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @06:43PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @06:43PM (#1005933)

          Non-sequitur much?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @08:32PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @08:32PM (#1005973)

            Feeling smart today?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @09:47PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @09:47PM (#1006012)

              Feeling smart today?

              I feel much the same as I do every day. Why do you ask?

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @01:04AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @01:04AM (#1006094)

                Why do you ask?

                To confirm the diagnosis, why else?

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @05:28PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @05:28PM (#1006438)

                  I'm going to assume you're an ESL sort, as you appear to be unable to communicate clearly in English.

                  Please continue.

    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday June 11 2020, @04:41PM (1 child)

      by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday June 11 2020, @04:41PM (#1006398)

      Christianity was a derivative of Judaism. And one way they chose to push the edge of virtue signaling was celibacy. Christian priests were so devout and devoted that they cast aside even sex.

      Er...are you sure about this? It's the Catholic priests who aren't allowed to marry; I assure you that there are plenty of Protestant pastors who are. There was a running joke in the denomination that I grew up in that the pastors couldn't wait until they graduated from seminary school before popping out their third or fourth kid already.

      Or was this one of those dumb things that Paul said "well, I personally do this" in a letter and then everybody took it way too seriously for a couple hundred years

      --
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      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday June 11 2020, @04:46PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday June 11 2020, @04:46PM (#1006404)

        The belief that religious figures should be celibate began long before the birth of Christianity. Ancient Druid priests were thought to have been celibate and Aztec temple priests were expected to remain sexually abstinent. Other pre-Christian sects mandated that the people chosen for their sacrificial offerings must be pure, meaning that they had never engaged in sex.[*]

        Jesus lived a chaste life and never married and at one point in the Bible is referred to as a eunuch (Matthew 19:12), though most scholars believe that this was intended metaphorically. The implication was that Jesus lived a celibate life like a eunuch. Many of his disciples were also chaste and celibate. Paul, in his first letter to the Corinthians, recommends celibacy for women: "To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain single as I do. But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion." (1 Cor. 7:8-9) But the early Christian church had no hard and fast rule against clergy marrying and having children. Peter, a Galilee fisherman, whom the Catholic Church considers the first Pope, was married. Some Popes were the sons of Popes.

        The first written mandate requiring priests to be chaste came in AD 304. Canon 33 of the Council of Elvira stated that all"bishops, presbyters, and deacons and all other clerics" were to"abstain completely from their wives and not to have children." A short time later, in 325, the Council of Nicea, convened by Constantine, rejected a ban on priests marrying requested by Spanish clerics.

        https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/696 [historynewsnetwork.org]

        *Hmm...when were the Vestal Virgins a thing?

        Livy, Plutarch, and Aulus Gellius attribute the creation of the Vestals as a state-supported priestesshood to king Numa Pompilius, who reigned circa 717–673 BC.

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