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FreeBSD has announced a new LLVM-derived code of conduct.
According to a 2018 survey "35% were dissatisfied with the code of conduct adopted in 2018, 34% were neutral, and 30% were satisfied." So, they held another survey at the start start of June:
Which code of conduct should FreeBSD adopt?
An LLVM-derived code of conduct:
https://github.com/freebsd/core.10-public-docs/blob/master/CoC/llvm-based.mdA Go-Derived code of conduct:
https://github.com/freebsd/core.10-public-docs/blob/master/CoC/golang-based.mdRetain the current code of conduct:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200108075747/https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.htmlRESULTS
- 4% favoured keeping the current code of conduct
- 33% favoured the Go-derived code of conduct
- 63% favoured the LLVM-derived code of conduct.
Thus, the Core Team, following the preference of a majority of active
FreeBSD developers, adopted the LLVM-derived code of conduct.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @04:45PM (18 children)
The *ideals* embodied in the constitution are much more important than a flag or a song.
Peacefully (and silently, in this case) calling out violence and casual brutality that flies in the face of those ideals shows *great* respect for America. Much more so than running people down [citylab.com] with [wikipedia.org] cars [cbsnews.com].
In fact, the difference is quite stark. One attempts to *peacefully* raise awareness of issues within our society, the other uses violence in an attempt to silence those attempts.
I'll give you one guess as to which is more respectful of the ideals and principles of the US Constitution.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday June 10 2020, @05:40PM (4 children)
The ideals are embodied in the flag and song as well.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @06:03PM (1 child)
Some claim that the flag and the song are more important than embracing those ideals.
I heartily disagree with that sentiment. In fact, pointing up where we fall short of those ideals while focused on the flag and the song is a powerful reminder that the ideals are what's important, not the symbols of them.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday June 12 2020, @03:05PM
Some people don't think things through, on either side of the issue. Getting massively butthurt over someone disrespecting either is just as stupid as not considering that nobody not already in your camp is going to listen to a word you say if you pick the most offensive method of protest at your disposal as a starting point.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by dry on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:29AM (1 child)
How so? I guess the song represents war monging but the flag? Are Americans striped stars or perhaps those stars are like the ones the kindergarten teachers gave out to the best behaved kids.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday June 12 2020, @03:12PM
Warmongering? Are you "special" or something? It was written by Francis Scott Key about his relief and rejoicing after a night of artillery bombardment during the war of 1812, which was his nation being invaded by the Brits.
The stars stand for the states, one each but none assigned any specific state. The stripes alternately stand for our liberty and the blood that was shed for it; white for the former and red for the latter.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @06:50PM (12 children)
I can only speak for myself on this one. If I'm driving, and a protest is suddenly in front of me, I will try to get away from it. You do all your marching, and I'll be on my way.
If I find myself driving, and a protest blocks a lot of cars together, but it seems like they're just marching through to get to somewhere else, no problem. I'll wait patiently until the march has moved on, then be on my way.
But if I'm driving, and a protest blocks my car or many cars, and then protesters surround my car, I will instantly assume they mean me harm, and I will drive over everyone in my way. Protesters have repeatedly surrounded people's cars, dragged them out of the car, and killed them. You surround my car, I assume you're trying to kill me. I will drive you down in order to save my life.
If you find yourself in front of a car that's being surrounded, I urge you to move immediately, because you are quite likely about to be run over.
If your parents never taught you not to play in the street, I honestly don't care. I don't care what color you are, what cause you're marching for, or who's being elected soon. If you're trying to kill me, I will kill you right back.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @08:01PM (9 children)
Can't wait for you to be in prison. Well, better you don't kill anyone, but you are definitely the type who should be under guard if you think someone yelling at you is justification for murder.
By your logic every black person should be allowed to shoot cops that approach them for fear of losing their life. Every person displaying a Confederate flag should be shot on sight as probably domestic terrorists, and every Republican should be stripped of their right to vote for electing Donald Trump.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @08:45PM (1 child)
Black people would have less cops coming after them if they weren't in the middle of committing crime.
Cause and effect. It doesn't take a genius, but maybe it does take at least an average IQ. Gentle Giant George eas a career violent criminal, and while what happened to him was wrong (and the police are being prosecuted for it), he lived like a thug and died like a thug. It's a dangerous life he chose.
Live an honest life for your own self-preservation if nothing else.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @10:24PM
Thugs die on their feet in fights. George was lying on the ground with someone kneeling on him. He died like a rug.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @09:48PM (6 children)
You can yell at me without surrounding my car. If you yell at me without surrounding my car, I won't do a thing to you. I don't want to do a thing to anyone.
If a crowd is simply walking by on both sides of my car on its way to somewhere else, I won't do a thing to them.
I shall now be very very specific since you seem to require it: if a crowd of people are all around my car, facing towards my car, and beating on my car in a seeming attempt to gain entry and/or break the windows, that is what I mean by being surrounded. I am then in definite fear for my life, and I will act accordingly.
Another factor is that my car has clearly marked handicapped plates. Because I'm handicapped. I can not physically get out of the car and run away. When it comes to "fight or flight", the flight option is sadly unavailable to me. So when faced between dying and driving the car forward regardless of who's in front of it, I'll drive.
You seem to think my life has no value that any protestor need respect. Well, I hope you spend the rest of your life in one of the Free Autonomous Zones, or whatever they're called; you should like that, away from horrible people like me who simply want to not be beaten to death.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @10:40PM (2 children)
You're nuts, must be a Fox viewer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @10:42PM (1 child)
Ugh, you've ended the argument with your rapier wit; thou hath slain me and now I die. thud
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @04:26PM
It wasn't wit, it was a simple descriptor of your "logic" as others elaborated on.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 10 2020, @11:11PM
You have an active fantasy life, friend.
Try not to confuse them with reality.
(Score: 1, Troll) by MostCynical on Thursday June 11 2020, @03:22AM
+1 loony?
+1 straw man (on fire)
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @04:08PM
You are likely legal to leave the area by driving through slowly. You would not be allowed to gun your engine and see how many you can get or try to force them away. You should also be on the phone to 911 as soon as possible and turn yourself in for questioning.
One way is using your car as an escape mechanism, the other is using your car as a weapon. Guess which is legal and which isn't? And yeah, have a good lawyer before you say anything, because one slip like you've done here will see you prosecuted.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:43PM
I will wait patiently for citations.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 12 2020, @06:40AM
I'm Antifa, you bigot! Already in your back seat, even before you got to the protest. Be afraid, be very af. . . . but, we all can see you already are. Next protest, we'll bring a "safe zone" for you.