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posted by martyb on Thursday June 11 2020, @05:44PM   Printer-friendly
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HBO Max Temporarily Removes ‘Gone With the Wind’ From Library

An HBO Max spokesperson says “Gone With the Wind” will eventually return to the platform with a discussion about its historical context and a denouncement of its racist depictions.

On Tuesday, HBO Max removed the 1939 film from its library in the wake of protests over the death of George Floyd.

[...] Upon its release, “Gone With the Wind” broke theater attendance records and was the highest-grossing film of all time to that point. It still holds the record when adjusted for inflation. However, despite being considered one of the greatest films of all time, some film commentators have since criticized its depiction of slavery and Black people.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @05:57PM (35 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @05:57PM (#1006451)

    Someone is working overtime to memory hole everything racist.

    I guess we shouldn't have any kind of history as it will always be judged harshly by modern standards.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:02PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:02PM (#1006455)

    Judging by how everyone with a public face is paying lip service to wokeness right now, I think they're doing it to avoid looters attacking their physical properties. After all, the police aren't going to risk their necks to intervene against armed masses.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:10PM (#1006461)

      Nah, it's a combination of trying to stay relevant and exploiting opportunity. All the properties are insured, and with the impending realestate disaster that will come from this, they will prefer to have it burned down at current value.

      Of course we are not far away from time where NOT paying lip service will brand you a racist and turn the purists onto you. The purity spiral is strong with this movement.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:11PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:11PM (#1006463)

      I think they're doing it to avoid looters attacking their physical properties.

      Yeah! All those HBO Max stores (?!?) are at huge risk of being looted and burned. Please.

      Especially since you can still buy it at Best Buy, Walmart and Target:
      https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gone-with-the-wind-70th-anniversary-edition-2-discs-dvd-1939/9321646.p?skuId=9321646 [bestbuy.com]
      https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gone-with-The-Wind-2-Disc-Special-Edition-DVD/12329525 [walmart.com]
      https://www.target.com/p/gone-with-the-wind-70th-anniversary-edition-2-discs/-/A-11643559 [target.com]

      What's more, you can buy *and* stream it at Amazon:
      https://www.amazon.com/Gone-Wind-Two-Disc-Clark-Gable/dp/B000BYA4LA [amazon.com]

      What was that you were saying? Not anything reflecting reality apparently.

      After all, the police aren't going to risk their necks to intervene against armed masses.

      Yep. They don't seem to be willing to do so. [npr.org]

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:11PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:11PM (#1006528)

      The looters don't give a shit about who they're looting. They're not doing it for political ends, but for selfish ends. This [youtube.com] clip from the 1992 LA Riots is one of the most powerful I've seen. Hate to use that word, but how else can you define it? And it really sums up the reality of what looting invariably turns into.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @09:16PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @09:16PM (#1006599)

        The looters don't give a shit about who they're looting.

        Frankly the looters don't give a damn.

        FTFY

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:12PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:12PM (#1006466)
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:28PM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:28PM (#1006481)

      You can still find it, but a whole generation or two is learning to use streaming services and not ever touch another optical disc.

      • (Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:53PM (7 children)

        by hemocyanin (186) on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:53PM (#1006510) Journal

        I hail from before the days of Beta, though finally I did get VHS, and even I haven't touched a disc in ... I don't know how long. I do still have a DVD player (in a storage box). Honestly, if it doesn't stream, it's easier to just find something else to watch. So yeah, I agree: the fact that you can get a disc at the Goodwill or something doesn't really speak to the widespread availability of the movie, and especially doesn't speak to the way most people decide to watch something, even old farts who remember discs and tapes, which is by stumbling on it while browsing online.

        • (Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:18PM (6 children)

          by Bot (3902) on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:18PM (#1006532) Journal

          fuck beta

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:38PM (5 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:38PM (#1006543)

            Hmm, makes me think u really unt machine,type,respondent ^programmedto respond to spcfic phrases. Hemocyanin wasn't talkinbout the dotdays.

            • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:58PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:58PM (#1006565)

              fuck beta... Max

              • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday June 12 2020, @12:40PM

                by Bot (3902) on Friday June 12 2020, @12:40PM (#1006830) Journal

                V for VHS (V+IHS if you know about the Fawkes guy)

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            • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday June 12 2020, @12:38PM (2 children)

              by Bot (3902) on Friday June 12 2020, @12:38PM (#1006829) Journal

              Can you elaborate on that?

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by tizan on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:23PM (7 children)

    by tizan (3245) on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:23PM (#1006479)

    I don't think so...
    Just like if there were a movie glorifying eating caca made before the days bacteria was known....I am sure you'll have to publish today it with a big note how eating excrement is known to be detrimental to health. This is not erasing history ...this is making sure people understand from where it is coming...as you know some will gargle with clorox just because it was mentioned once.

    Similarly if you are going to depict people as loving the being the people who keeps them enslaved in the days when slaves was considered on par with cattle in the law....i suspect you have to qualify that no human is considered as cattle in the law even though KKK, for e.g, believes that.

    Let's put it...this is to make sure the clorox drinkers don't also think some humans are more equal than other humans because the slaves of Vivian Leigh loved her and they liked their status as slaves and continued to be her slaves !

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by FatPhil on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:38PM (5 children)

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:38PM (#1006492) Homepage
      > Just like if there were a movie glorifying eating caca made before the days bacteria was known....I am sure you'll have to publish today it with a big note how eating excrement is known to be detrimental to health.

      Bollocks. Or only in a really really stupid nanny-state with a really really stupid population.

      E.g. /Reefer Madness/ is available with no disclaimers or warnings at all about how its payload is complete garbage in sane countries, in fact it's a "classic": https://www.amazon.ca/Reefer-Madness-DVD/dp/6305066795
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      • (Score: 2) by tizan on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:50PM (4 children)

        by tizan (3245) on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:50PM (#1006507)

        > Bollocks. Or only in a really really stupid nanny-state with a really really stupid population.

        Really .... so the "donot drink" on clorox bottle is nanny state ? You must live in a country with 100% educated populace (I mean educated not schooled.) who knows of the dangers of the oxidative power of halogens.

        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday June 11 2020, @11:48PM (2 children)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 11 2020, @11:48PM (#1006665) Journal

          Well, yes. They may even know the difference between a halogen and the hypochlorite ion [wikipedia.org] (grin)

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          • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday June 12 2020, @12:50PM (1 child)

            by Bot (3902) on Friday June 12 2020, @12:50PM (#1006833) Journal

            Don't be hypochloritical.

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            • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday June 12 2020, @02:29PM

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 12 2020, @02:29PM (#1006877) Journal

              Well, no, I'm no, just a bit perchloratical.

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        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday June 12 2020, @02:16PM

          Well, you're building a straw man, but as a separate argument about nanny states, yes, I do think that such do not drink labels are pretty stupid and signs of a nanny state. Mostly because they are a gesture that does not achieve the intended goal, they're safety theatre, rather than actual provision of enhanced safety. They don't protect the most stupid, for a start - do you simply not care about that slice of the population, is this some insidious eugenic policy you're pushing? Nor foreigners who don't speak the language, so perhaps you're racist too? A childproof cap is way more effective than a label if you can't trust parents to protect their kids.

          But yes, I am lucky in having most recently lived in countries where the chilren are worldproofed adequately, and instilled with superabilities like common sense, risk evaluation, and logical thought. For example, I used to live near a school which didn't have a proper school yard - at break times the kids would *go outside and play on the rocks*. And they're now doing just fine. Unlike people of the same age in the country responsible for (a) Gone with the Wind; and (b) banning Gone with the Wind.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:25PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:25PM (#1006536)

      I don't think so...
      Just like if there were a movie glorifying eating caca made before the days bacteria was known....I am sure you'll have to publish today it with a big note how eating excrement is known to be detrimental to health.

      Tell that to these folks [motherless.com] [NSFW -- no. Really. NSFW. Probably not safe for home either. Well, unless you're into that sort of thing.]. I'm pretty sure *every single one* was made after we had knowledge of bacteria.

      As such, that's a terrible analogy. You can do better. I know you can.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by FatPhil on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:29PM

    by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:29PM (#1006482) Homepage
    "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."

    Oh, this wasn't the statue-wrecking or street-renaming story, and no mentions of films at all in that, so I'm waaaay O/T, sorry.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:30PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:30PM (#1006483)

    Oh noes muh HBOs!

    Let me know when legislation is passed banning the sale or viewing of the movie. Until then, SUCK IT YOU HYPORCRITICAL COCK WOMBLE :D XOXOXO :D

    • (Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:55PM (8 children)

      by hemocyanin (186) on Thursday June 11 2020, @06:55PM (#1006512) Journal

      Democrats. Example above. Such the freedom lovers.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:27PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:27PM (#1006538)

        Such the freedom lovers.

        Are you making the argument that the folks at HBO should be *required* to stream specific media?

        How very authoritarian of you. I applaud your dedication!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:40PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @07:40PM (#1006546)

        Typical low energy republican response, maybe you should ask Trump for some of his best words to help you with your critical thinking training.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Thursday June 11 2020, @08:04PM (1 child)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday June 11 2020, @08:04PM (#1006567) Journal

          hemocyanin is not a Republican. He's a progressive who realized what the Left has become.

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          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @11:13PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 11 2020, @11:13PM (#1006648)

            Ok boomer

        • (Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Thursday June 11 2020, @11:27PM (3 children)

          by hemocyanin (186) on Thursday June 11 2020, @11:27PM (#1006656) Journal

          I'm not a republican. I'm pissed-at-the-whole-fucking-lot-of-emian.

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday June 11 2020, @11:55PM (2 children)

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 11 2020, @11:55PM (#1006668) Journal

            Stop being pissed-at-bohemians, mate

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            • (Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Friday June 12 2020, @06:05AM (1 child)

              by hemocyanin (186) on Friday June 12 2020, @06:05AM (#1006775) Journal

              Bohemians don't censor and bohemians are definitely in the target of the regressive left.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 12 2020, @06:16AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 12 2020, @06:16AM (#1006778)

                Yet, spell with me, they are bohemians

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 12 2020, @01:58AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 12 2020, @01:58AM (#1006720)

    I went shopping yesterday. My favorite coffee had been removed from the shelves and replaced with something else. It is still available at their online store. https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/44917/negrita-ground-coffee-turkish-dark-roast [woolworths.com.au]