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posted by Fnord666 on Monday June 15 2020, @07:03PM   Printer-friendly
from the burning-facts dept.

China is furious that environmental readings have exposed lies around COVID-19 deaths. The data collected shows a clear mismatch from the information released by the Chinese government about how many people died and at what time. This is a very sensitive subject with China engaging in a cold trade war with Australia over the origins of COVID-19 while providing support to affected smallers countries as calls are made for China to pay billions in penalties due to their coverup.

Before Beijing's crackdown, China's bureaucracy had been conducting business as usual – analysing, assessing and reporting on everything about its citizenry. The researchers from Washington University and Ohio State University say they have tracked down this early government data and combined it with reports in state-controlled and social media.

Among this data was the activities of eight crematories in Wuhan. By January 25 these were inexplicably operating around the clock.

Based on such sources, the researchers argue the total number of infections and fatalities before February was at least ten times that of the official figure announced by Beijing.

[...] The study tracked the sale [of] funeral urns to verify these estimates. In the January-March period during which the crematoriums were operating at peak levels, some 36,000 had been distributed.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by driverless on Tuesday June 16 2020, @11:30AM (4 children)

    by driverless (4770) on Tuesday June 16 2020, @11:30AM (#1008542)

    That's a different conspiracy theory: China, notorious for its heavy pollution, experiences less pollution during the lockdown. When pollution returns after the lockdown ends it's obviously due to secret crematoria being run and not because of, well, the usual pollution returning once the lockdown ends.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Muad'Dave on Tuesday June 16 2020, @02:23PM (3 children)

    by Muad'Dave (1413) on Tuesday June 16 2020, @02:23PM (#1008642)

    These crematoria were allegedly being run __before__ the official lockdown, not after.

    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday June 16 2020, @04:38PM

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday June 16 2020, @04:38PM (#1008719) Journal

      And Iraq has nukes and is overturning incubators! This means WAR!

      Anybody bother to verify this shit?

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by driverless on Wednesday June 17 2020, @01:17AM (1 child)

      by driverless (4770) on Wednesday June 17 2020, @01:17AM (#1008958)

      That's what I love about conspiracy theories, they take a bunch of random unconnected events, often supported by marginal data, and carefully string them together to support a particular narrative. Let's look at what's being reported here...

      Firstly, the time to reduce a body to ashes is 1-3 hours, let's say on average 2 hours. The crematoria where I live, a large city nowhere near China admittedly, typically have one oven. So going from a 12-hour working period to a 24-hour working period means a crematorium will process... six extra dead people! Wow! That's practically a pandemic!

      Even if they're larger and have two or even three ovens, you've now raised the total to a massive twelve or even eighteen people per day.

      Now look at when it happened. As the report points out, it's right in the middle of the Chinese New Year. During that period, no funerals occur, no-one gets buried, because it's incredibly bad luck. Guess what happens to all the extra bodies that can't be buried during that time?

      So you've got two explanations, both of which fit the observed behaviour: A slight increase in cremations during the Chinese New Year when you can't bury people or a sikrit conspiracy by the evil communist yellow peril. One of those is a perfectly straightforward occurrence requiring no magical leaps of faith and the other isn't but makes for a great conspiracy and news headlines. Take your pick.

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday June 17 2020, @03:18PM

        by Freeman (732) on Wednesday June 17 2020, @03:18PM (#1009156) Journal

        Last I checked, conspiracy theories, are just theories. Whereas the reported research, seems to indicate that China is covering up, saving face, making poor decisions, trying to maintain the stranglehold over their citizens, or what not. The paper says that the crematoria are only supposed to run for four hours a day. An average of 1.5 hours would be more reasonable, with a 1 - 3 hour time frame. Still, we'll go with 2. So, they ramped up from 2 people a day to 12 people a day. Yes, that is significant. Other circumstantial evidence, also indicates that they are lying.

        Now let's see here, a regime that is noted for lying (saving face/corruption/doing whatever they feel like and silencing the populace), has posted, circumspect numbers. Yeah, that seems legit. As in, it's 99.99% likely that they are lying.
        Looks like someone didn't read the article or someone is trying to spin something.

        Typically, these are restricted to operating just four hours each day. This is usually in the morning in keeping with Chinese funeral traditions.

        But you can go ahead and spin your China is the one true nation that will save us all spiel.

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