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posted by Fnord666 on Monday June 15 2020, @07:03PM   Printer-friendly
from the burning-facts dept.

China is furious that environmental readings have exposed lies around COVID-19 deaths. The data collected shows a clear mismatch from the information released by the Chinese government about how many people died and at what time. This is a very sensitive subject with China engaging in a cold trade war with Australia over the origins of COVID-19 while providing support to affected smallers countries as calls are made for China to pay billions in penalties due to their coverup.

Before Beijing's crackdown, China's bureaucracy had been conducting business as usual – analysing, assessing and reporting on everything about its citizenry. The researchers from Washington University and Ohio State University say they have tracked down this early government data and combined it with reports in state-controlled and social media.

Among this data was the activities of eight crematories in Wuhan. By January 25 these were inexplicably operating around the clock.

Based on such sources, the researchers argue the total number of infections and fatalities before February was at least ten times that of the official figure announced by Beijing.

[...] The study tracked the sale [of] funeral urns to verify these estimates. In the January-March period during which the crematoriums were operating at peak levels, some 36,000 had been distributed.


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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by c0lo on Tuesday June 16 2020, @12:19PM (6 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 16 2020, @12:19PM (#1008558) Journal

    Comparing current events seems fair to me.

    You having an axe to grind in this regards still doesn't bring the equivalency of "Uyghurs are the Afro-Americans of China" any closer to the truth.

    Sending Uighur men into camps and Han Chinese men to "sleep" with their wives is an interesting move.

    From the linked

    Those men often sleep in the same beds as the women, a new Radio Free Asia [RFA] report says, citing two unnamed Chinese officials.
    ...
    Both officials cited in RFA’s article claimed that male Communist Party officials had never tried to take advantage of the women. The official in Kashgar told RFA that the Uighur families were “very keen” to welcome the Han Chinese men into their homes.

    I fail to note any impression of rape or the idea that the imprisoned man would be killed.
    How's that "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"?

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday June 16 2020, @12:39PM (2 children)

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Tuesday June 16 2020, @12:39PM (#1008570) Journal

    You having an axe to grind in this regards

    I would not have even brought up the subject if OP hadn't made that comment.

    "Uyghurs are the Afro-Americans of China" any closer to the truth.

    You are harping on something that doesn't matter and being pedantic (as usual). It's just China's comparable (and worse) ethnic tension problem.

    I fail to note any impression of rape or the idea that the imprisoned man would be killed.
    How's that "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide"?

    You are playing dumb to get more replies. I'll mod you troll and move on.

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    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday June 16 2020, @12:49PM (1 child)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 16 2020, @12:49PM (#1008577) Journal

      You having an axe to grind in this regards

      I would not have even brought up the subject if OP hadn't made that comment.

      Tak, look, take my advice: do not counter propaganda with another propaganda. Like in the case of "an eye for an eye and everybody end blind", everybody has to lose if an entire discussion dumbs down into just propaganda skirmishes.

      The OP brought in a whatabout argument and you find nothing more intelligent to do than to counter with a malformed whataboutism of your own?
      Really, did the guys managed to awaken the Pavlov dog in you too?

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      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @12:00AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @12:00AM (#1008933)

        Tak, look, take my advice: do not counter propaganda with another propaganda.

        But then, how will 'Merika win? You want 'Murickans to settle for the truth? What are you, some kinda commie?

        And, it's takyon. He be like dat.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Tuesday June 16 2020, @12:50PM (2 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 16 2020, @12:50PM (#1008578) Journal

    You having an axe to grind in this regards still doesn't bring the equivalency of "Uyghurs are the Afro-Americans of China" any closer to the truth.

    Go back 200 years, axes were made of lower quality steel back then and needed sharpening more often.

    There's an awful lot of projection here. You even had to hearken back to the distant past in order to make a bogus comparison.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday June 16 2020, @01:00PM (1 child)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 16 2020, @01:00PM (#1008588) Journal

      I'm not projecting anything.
      My argument was that tak's whataboutism is of a worse quality than OP's whataboutism.

      You even had to hearken back to the distant past in order to make a bogus comparison.

      Doesn't this make a compelling argument that the two situations (USes black and China's Uyghurs) can't be actually compared?
      'Cause I thought I was clear about this point.

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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday June 16 2020, @01:55PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 16 2020, @01:55PM (#1008621) Journal

        Doesn't this make a compelling argument that the two situations (USes black and China's Uyghurs) can't be actually compared?

        Of course not. What happened 200 years ago doesn't excuse what is happening today.