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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday June 21 2020, @11:53PM   Printer-friendly

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

Australia's conservative government announced plans Friday to double university fees for humanities students, in a bid to push people into more useful, "job-relevant" courses like maths and science.

Under the proposal—which critics panned as an "ideological assault"—the cost of degrees like history or cultural studies will rise up to 113 percent to around US$29,000, while other courses such as nursing and information technology will become cheaper.

Education Minister Dan Tehan—an arts graduate with two advanced degrees in international relations—said the government wanted to corral young people towards "jobs of the future" to boost the country's economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic.

"If you are wanting to do philosophy, which will be great for your critical thinking, also think about doing IT," Tehan said.

The plan would help pay for an additional 39,000 university places by 2023 and for cost cuts for courses like science, agriculture, maths and languages.

[...] "I'm an arts graduate and so is the minister for education so I'm not sure you can draw the conclusion that we're completely unemployable," said opposition lawmaker Tanya Plibersek.


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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @03:52AM (24 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @03:52AM (#1010951)

    Floyd's death happened in Minneapolis, Minnesota, a state so far north, any farther north is Canada.
    If racism was involved, it was NORTHERN racism, and the mob should have toppled statues of UNION soldiers.
    But... the South is racist and the Confederacy is EVIL, let's march on the South! Stupid fucks, the South had nothing to do with it. This was YANKEE all the way. What happens when the facts don't fit the narrative? ...

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @04:30AM (23 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @04:30AM (#1010966)

    If racism was involved, it was NORTHERN racism, and the mob should have toppled statues of UNION soldiers.

    They did. The dumb-asses tore down a statue of US Grant, the guy who accepted the surrender of the Confederacy. The "protesters" are, if anything, invincibly ignorant. I'd love to see a bullet in the skulls of every one of these vandals, China style.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @04:46AM (22 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @04:46AM (#1010972)

      That's because the real enemy is much broader than some old Confederate soldiers from over 150 years ago. The real enemy was always the entire white race, particularly males, that ruled before year zero of the present Communist Revolution.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday June 22 2020, @01:02PM (21 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday June 22 2020, @01:02PM (#1011064) Journal

        No one believes this except a bunch of bed-wetting little manchildren like yourself. What's wrong, are you scared that you'll be treated poorly based on your skin color, sex, gender, or culture for no good reason? Wow, wouldn't THAT suck? Good thing it's NEVER EVER HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE BEFORE.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @03:42PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @03:42PM (#1011129)

          So you are saying I am correct?

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @05:06PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @05:06PM (#1011165)

          Most aren't listening to what these protesters are saying. The real enemy is capitalism and having to work for positive outcomes. Racism is just a front since many protestors and rioters are middle/upper class white kids. BLM are self admitted marxists and 1/2 their demands relate to that. The street level people don't even know what they're revolting about as evidenced from interviews and tearing down grant/defacing civil war black regiment.

          Come on... Police brutality in the UK? Institutional racism... especially there!? People who lived through the real deal would beg to differ. That's why it's the realm of the young; those lacking life experience or world travel. Last 10 years has been full of hints, in songs, media and education. The Bernie people even straight up said if he didn't get the nomination they'd burn this motherfucker down.

          It's not even unprecedented. The same exact "revolution" was had in the 60s USA. The Black Liberation Movement is the previous "BLM" and they just changed the acronym but not much else. In their eyes capitalism IS white supremacy and these type of things are taught in the humanities as fact these days. The sad people focused on race and racism are the legit racists and it's blinding them from seeing the forest for the trees.

          • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @10:48PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @10:48PM (#1011280)

            In their eyes capitalism IS white supremacy ...

            Let me give that a citation: https://itsgoingdown.org/questions-in-the-face-of-counterinsurgency/ [itsgoingdown.org]

            It is not a question of simply talking more about class, and definitely not retreating to the implicitly racist workerism that has characterized many white anti-capitalist movements, past and present. Rather, we need to make it impossible to talk about racism and capitalism as forms of oppression that can be separated. We need to spread the awareness that—through the ongoing process of colonialism—these forms of oppression were created together.

            It should also be noted that Democracy is also on the chopping block:

            Democracy is central to the white supremacist imagination, so it seems a little strange to insist on pulling down Columbus statues while we still maintain loyalty to that concept.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @07:02PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @07:02PM (#1011206)

          We're not going to live with the leaches any longer. We will have our own ethnostate(s). Whites are starting to wake up to the scam of multiculturalism and white genocide. Other races, antiracialists, and race traitors can live together, or separately as they choose, and can develop their own civilizations, such as they will be.

          White Genocide Is Real: In Their Own Words: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Es3WG7JKJUGB/ [bitchute.com]

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @07:51PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 22 2020, @07:51PM (#1011216)

            Eww, true trash here on SN.

            Can you deniers admit there is a neo-nazi infestation around here yet?

            • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday June 23 2020, @02:25AM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday June 23 2020, @02:25AM (#1011397) Journal

              The "deniers" *are* part of the infestation, they're just too cowardly to admit it. This place has a serious problem with that type...

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              I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 3, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday June 23 2020, @12:38AM (1 child)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday June 23 2020, @12:38AM (#1011348) Journal

            So where is this ethnostate going to be located, exactly? In case you haven't noticed, pretty much all the land is taken up already aside from some very inhospitable places near the antipodes.

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            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Tuesday June 23 2020, @07:22AM

              by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday June 23 2020, @07:22AM (#1011460) Journal

              Usually, it is their Own Private Idaho [wikipedia.org], but it usually does not work out the way they thought, much like the Mad Mormons, like Lori Vallow and the Bundy's, found out, especially when the standoff at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge resulted in shipments of barrels of lube and all kinds of sex toys, since it was a Dubioius Battle [wikipedia.org]. But really, there is no place for a white supremacist to go anymore, what with the Fall of the Third Reich and the end of Apartheid, and the fact that their parents won't let them move back in.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Monday June 22 2020, @10:39PM (12 children)

          by hemocyanin (186) on Monday June 22 2020, @10:39PM (#1011275) Journal

          So what you're saying, is that people who had nothing to do with any of this stuff in past centuries, should just suck up the new racist ideology of the regressive left? That fundamental freedoms, the very concept of equality, should just be thrown out the window because a long time ago people unconnected to us did bad shit.

          That's fucked up.

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday June 23 2020, @12:35AM (11 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday June 23 2020, @12:35AM (#1011342) Journal

            Uh, no? You have some real problems with reading comprehension. Willful ones.

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            • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 23 2020, @02:04AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 23 2020, @02:04AM (#1011387)

              No one believes this except a bunch of bed-wetting little manchildren like yourself. What's wrong, are you scared that you'll be treated poorly based on your skin color, sex, gender, or culture for no good reason? Wow, wouldn't THAT suck? Good thing it's NEVER EVER HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE BEFORE.

              So what you're saying, is that people who had nothing to do with any of this stuff in past centuries, should just suck up the new racist ideology of the regressive left? That fundamental freedoms, the very concept of equality, should just be thrown out the window because a long time ago people unconnected to us did bad shit.

              No, he pretty much nailed exactly what you said.

              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 23 2020, @07:30AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 23 2020, @07:30AM (#1011462)

                No one believes this except a bunch of bed-wetting little manchildren like yourself. What's wrong, are you scared that you'll be treated poorly based on your skin color, sex, gender, or culture for no good reason? Wow, wouldn't THAT suck? Good thing it's NEVER EVER HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE BEFORE.

                So what you're saying, is that people who had nothing to do with any of this stuff in past centuries, should just suck up the new racist ideology of the regressive left? That fundamental freedoms, the very concept of equality, should just be thrown out the window because a long time ago people unconnected to us did bad shit.

                No, he pretty much nailed exactly what you said.

                NO, he is just a snowflake, too white, too fragile, irresponsible, and not will to admit his people's injustices that have resulted in structural racism. I say, punch him in the face, tax him for reparations, but him on a "washita reservation", send him blankets infected with smallpox, deny him loans for houses in nice neighborhoods, make him ride in the back of the bus, and rape his female relatives with impunity, just so he gets some idea of what it is like, as Azumi suggested. Or, we could just lynch him because of his skin color. That might get the message across.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Tuesday June 23 2020, @07:23AM (8 children)

              by hemocyanin (186) on Tuesday June 23 2020, @07:23AM (#1011461) Journal

              Not really. My great grandparents were peasants in E. Europe who escaped pogroms in the early 1900s to come here. You are clearly suggesting through sarcasm that I should be re-subjected to the discrimination they suffered because other unrelated people did bad things to other unrelated people. NO! I support equality, but you, with your lax dismissive attitude toward it, support human rights violations while you ride around here on your high horse sanctimoniously criticizing those who fear a resurgence of identitarianism, and would struggle against it just like our grandparents did in the Second World War. It baffles me why you want to resurrect such evil.

              • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 23 2020, @07:32AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 23 2020, @07:32AM (#1011463)

                You are clearly suggesting through sarcasm that I should be re-subjected to the discrimination they suffered because other unrelated people did bad things to other unrelated people.

                COLLABORATOR!!!! COLLABORATOR!!! HANG HIM! BURN HIM!!! White privilege comes at a price, even if you were not the one to create it. And you are Jewish? Passing for white? Oy, vey! the Chutzpah!

              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday June 23 2020, @01:43PM (6 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday June 23 2020, @01:43PM (#1011551) Journal

                Uh...what? Please point out the exact things I've said that lead you to that conclusion and the chain of thought that brought you there.

                And please note, I am *not* sitting here going "hahaha stupid wypipo, get what's coming to you!" I'm not that petty, and being "wypipo" myself, it would be really damn stupid and self-destructive to wish that. No, I'm hoping the OP stops and thinks "wait a minute, what are MY motives for that little rant?"

                Because, Hemocyanin, what I notice most from people like that is a hell of a lot of projection. They assume that $MINORITY are just as awful as they are, will treat them just as badly as they either do treat or wish to treat $MINORITY, and have a complete disconnect between that fear and the realization that if they have a problem with the idea they should be paying it forward. It's whiny, selfish, white-fragility bullshit. And you appear to be falling for the same trap. Please slow your roll and think about this for a moment.

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                I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                • (Score: 2, Interesting) by hemocyanin on Tuesday June 23 2020, @07:46PM (5 children)

                  by hemocyanin (186) on Tuesday June 23 2020, @07:46PM (#1011694) Journal

                  First regarding you comment, it's pretty clear: https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38111&page=1&cid=1011387#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

                  Secondly, YOU are injecting race here. I am talking about the authoritarian regressive left. I would see a world with equality for all. You would see a world divided by race. It was this story that crystallized for me why I am so repulsed by the regressive left and mentioned it in another post:

                  The regressive left has cherry picked identity politics from NAZIs, blind faith from evangelicals, suppression of speech and thought from authoritarians, and concepts of justice from the mob. They've chosen the most cancerous ideas possible from the worst people in history[.]

                  You insult me about white fragility, but what I'm concerned with is freedom and equality for all people. Freedom and equality ARE fragile. They are easily crushed and what comes afterward, is always bloody and horrific. I will stand against the wall for those principles, and you will pull the trigger.

                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday June 24 2020, @01:40AM (4 children)

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday June 24 2020, @01:40AM (#1011803) Journal

                    And if you want freedom and equality for all people, *you must create the conditions necessary for them to exist.* There is no way around this.

                    Freedom and equality are not pre-existing Platonic forms floating around in some ethereal realm of ideas, just waiting to be spoken into existence, top-down. Reality does not work this way. They are grassroots, bottom-up, the *end results* of adaptive, humanistic organization of society.

                    You, Hemocyanin, don't strike me as someone truly interested in making freedom and equality happen. No, it sounds more like you have a victim or martyrdom complex the size of God, and are almost creaming yourself in anticipation of being slain "for the cause." A cause you have such a poor grasp on that you don't even know how to begin bringing it about, a cause you know so little of that you'd rather attack people who could potentially be allies than sit down and examine the fundamental ideas you have about.

                    You know what I'd do to you, given the chance? *Exactly what I'm doing now.* You have no need to fear a bullet or even a mocking custard pie from me. You have every reason to fear merciless deconstruction, blunt critique, and even mockery if and when deserved. And something tells me that you fear that more than you fear high-velocity lead.

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                    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                    • (Score: 1, Disagree) by hemocyanin on Wednesday June 24 2020, @08:20PM (1 child)

                      by hemocyanin (186) on Wednesday June 24 2020, @08:20PM (#1012133) Journal

                      However you wish to couch things, whatever pretty words you wish to decorate your ideology with, and whatever insults you wish to throw at me, your ideas are not an opposition to racial supremacists' ideas, but consonant with them. They strike me as Orwellian: Equality Through Oppression!

                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday June 25 2020, @01:25PM

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday June 25 2020, @01:25PM (#1012381) Journal

                        So you haven't seen my thoughts on affirmative action, for example?

                        I know, I know, you want SO badly to be able to peg your ideological opponents as cases of Harrison Bergeron syndrome. That's not the truth, certainly not in my case, and you do no one any favors by closing your eyes, pulling your hat down over your head, and whining that everyone else is just as bad as the people they claim to be opposing. Only you, Hemocyanin, are pure and righteous and enlightened! Only you know the truth!

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                        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                    • (Score: 2, Troll) by Phoenix666 on Thursday June 25 2020, @12:46AM (1 child)

                      by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday June 25 2020, @12:46AM (#1012225) Journal

                      hahaha man, i bet you call out your own name during sex.

                      get some perspective. you are not God's gift to anything.

                      i mean that in all kindness. i am quite fond of you, but my goodness is your ego hypertrophic these days.

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                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday June 25 2020, @01:24PM

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday June 25 2020, @01:24PM (#1012380) Journal

                        Projection, Phoenix. I recall our last few conversations. You got the shit kicked out of you, and your main problem is you weren't even able to keep up with said shit-kicking. You don't like your perfection being assailed--after all, you DID work hard to get where you are and put a lot more time into developing yourself than average, so how *dare* someone shit all over that, right?

                        But you're still badly deficient in several critical areas of development, and worse, you've fallen into a few pernicious meme-plexes, mostly due to your religion, that will make it very, very difficult to progress onward. Ironic, considering how Pride is said to be the worst sin. And now you project and rebound, accusing others of what you yourself are guilty of.

                        And if you're wondering, I generally call out my girlfriend's name during sex, for what should be obvious reasons.

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                        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...