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Trump Freezes Green Cards, Many Work Visas Until End Of Year:
President Trump on Monday extended a freeze on green cards for new immigrants and signed an executive order to suspend new H-1B, L-1, J and other temporary work visas for skilled workers, managers and au pairs through the end of the year.
The goal of the move is to protect 525,000 jobs as part of the White House response to job losses caused by the coronavirus pandemic, said a senior administration official, who spoke to reporters on the condition of anonymity. NPR first reported the impending order on Saturday.
"Americans have been hurt through no fault of their own due to the coronavirus," the official said. "And the president is prioritizing getting them back into the labor supply and getting them to work and standing on their own two feet again."
[...] But other workers will also be affected, including foreign au pairs who provide child care. Professors and scholars are not to be included in the order, the official said. There will be a provision to request exemptions. The order is not expected to affect immigrants and visa holders already in the United States.
[...] The order did not apply to H-2A agriculture workers, who Trump says are necessary to ensure grocery store shelves remain stocked with fruits and vegetables. Health care workers involved in treating coronavirus patients will also be exempt.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 24 2020, @05:15AM (13 children)
Finally, that AC who is always bitching about there being no IT jobs, will finally get an IT job. But I suspect the reason for his not getting job was incompetence and complete lack of humanity, in otherwords, a neo-nazi alt-right libertariantard incel asshole of the first, and second, degrees. I wish him well. But I do not thing this is going to end well. Pres is calling out the tear gas again. Going to order cities, and states, and the Super Court. Cannot read the constitution, or walk down mildly inclining ramps, like our poor "no IT jobs" guy. Sad.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Wednesday June 24 2020, @06:34AM (2 children)
No, he won't. There'll be jobs for cable monkey, but not as a programmer, that's what he was whinging for.
I mean... look... WFH showed that telecommuting is OK, so if a keyboard monkey is OK to get in daily meetings @ wee-hours in the morning and does his job, one doesn't even need a visa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 4, Interesting) by zocalo on Wednesday June 24 2020, @07:43AM (1 child)
Once firms realise - assuming that they haven't done so - that this approach can also allow for US-based managers to task outsourced overseas workers in the evening and have the work done when they get back into the office the following morning, it's a slam dunk. As a bonus, there's less HR paperwork (further headcount reductions!), and having fewer local employees removes also some of the bad press that tech companies are getting for their employees driving up house prices/rentals. Stopping H1-Bs solves part of the problem, but unless the other shoe drops and there is a clamp down on overseas outsourcing as well I suspect it's going to do a lot more harm than good - once those jobs have gone overseas they are almost certainly not going to be coming back.
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by quan2mst8 on Wednesday June 24 2020, @11:47AM
It sounds great to the management class. They've tried it before, but it didn't work out.
There are several reasons:
1. Lower standards - Indian firms have a lower standard of work and work acceptability. This can remedied over time, similar to Chinese steel works, but it's not ready yet.
2. Lower trust and enforcement - IP is everything to an IT based business, as much as I hate the current IP regime in Western countries, they provide no protections from a firm stealing your work/ideas and presenting them as their own and then presenting them both in the US and the Indian markets.
3. Collaboration - Currently, due to the lower level of acceptable work, the ability of Indian firms to collaborate is terrible. Resulting in poor attainment of deadlines and the use of at least twice as many people. This further lowers the standard code quality by increasing the inefficiency of production through the network effect of communication.
It's a threat on the horizon, and it's got a tail wind heading straight for us. Take advantage of the lead and get yourself out of dependence of those who own the capital, or you too will be more grist for the mill.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 24 2020, @12:50PM (7 children)
He can have my job. Sounds like he's qualified. Your bullying won't get under his skin the way it got under mine.
What I learned about you social justice bullies is that you do not actually care about getting thos cisfemale programmers. You do not actually care about getting black programmers. When you have somebody in front of you who can check off the menstrual and black boxes, you belittle them and their experience and skills. You don't even let them fucking apply for the job.
Here I am, another one of those incels, trying to convince management to give her a chance. NOPE! So a supposed "incel" (yeah, haven't touched a pussy in my life only because all the guys I've slept with so far have unfortunately had dicks, but maybe the next one will have a pussy, problem is I see people as more than their reproductive organs so that's more like a 3rd date topic for me) who grew up in a white supremacist house is sticking up for somebody who is qualified and simply happens to be female and black, and then you white cis scum social justice bullies have a bajillion and one excuses why her experience isn't authentic or why she's exaggerating her skills or blablabla.
No, all you care about is bullying. All you care about is projecting your own racialism, racism, sexism, and cissexism on to people who care deeply about diversity in IT and are willing to personally take action--even affirmative action to try to correct it. Why? Because your bullying gets under their skin!
It's top kek for you, and it distracts from your own bigotry by creating a scapegoat and excusing yourself.
All that you do is further entrench white supremacy and patriarchy. Fuck you.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Bot on Wednesday June 24 2020, @03:40PM (4 children)
That is the thing with socialists, every issue is but an excuse to advance an agenda. They will flip on any principle faster than you can think possible. Compare x before getting elected to x after election.
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(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday June 24 2020, @04:03PM (3 children)
Yeah . . .
* BEFORE: Mexico will pay for the wall; AFTER: US Taxpayers will pay for the wall (or citizens will pay through tariffs)
* BEFORE: Repeal and Replace ACA, no cuts to Medicare / Medicaid; AFTER: Some of ACA can stay because (shock) Republicans like it, cut Medicaid causing millions to lose insurance
* BEFORE: Won't touch entitlement programs!; AFTER: Cut Medicaid by 25% and "reform" entitlements
* BEFORE: Won't intervene in Syria; AFTER: Strike the Syrian regime
* BEFORE: Drain the swamp; AFTER: staff the government and white house with lobbyists
Many more examples easily googled.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday June 24 2020, @04:20PM (2 children)
Major logic error here, if I say all x are y I don't imply that any not x is not y.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Wednesday June 24 2020, @06:22PM (1 child)
Take the original line:
I think I can simply replace socialists with Republicans and the statement is equally true.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Friday June 26 2020, @08:37PM
The Republican usually follows the announced plans, it cheats on the outcome. Also, they do not align as tightly to The One Truth. Morally speaking, that is irrelevant, both cheaters, practically speaking they are easier to decode.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 24 2020, @04:32PM
Is this an example of what you mean?
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1275527886510927872/pu/vid/1280x720/al30iZcY_tnCBqn-.mp4?tag=10 [twimg.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2020, @06:40PM
So calling people out for their racist bullshit is social justice bullying?
Top 'kek' indeed, definitely a rand worthy rant.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday June 24 2020, @04:08PM (1 child)
Wait !?! . . . so, um, you're suggesting there is more than one AC ?
I thought there was only one, but with multiple personality disorder. Is there evidence to discredit my theory in favor of there being multiple actual ACs? And different IP addresses don't count.
Get a nym. Sometimes they are even offered at a fraction of their normal cost. If you have something to say, use a nym. It doesn't have to represent your real identity.
It's just that one AC talking about another AC seems to cross some kind of line. Like an AC replying saying they are not "the original AC" or "the other AC".
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2020, @04:09AM
Don't go all Ray's Pizza [wikipedia.org] on us, DannyB.