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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday June 27 2020, @05:38PM   Printer-friendly
from the biggest-loser-competition dept.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/facebook-faces-advertiser-backlash-over-its-handling-of-racism-hate-speech/

"Amid this global movement to end anti-Blackness, we credit these companies for answering our call swiftly and taking a clear stand for what's right so we can hold Facebook accountable for its racist policies," said Rashad Robinson, president of Color of Change, which is one of the groups organizing the boycott.

Almost 100 firms have joined the boycott so far, Robinson said, adding: "Facebook has a decision to make: adopt a civil rights infrastructure or continue to see key advertisers dropping from its platform."

[...] Most recently, the tension between Facebook and the content its users share has come to a head due to messages posted by President Donald Trump and his re-election campaign in the past month, amid nationwide protests in support of Black communities and against police violence. Twitter in late May took action against a Trump tweet by appending a warning that it glorified violence against protesters, in contravention of the site's rules. Facebook, however, took no action against the same content, and the company took heat from both civil rights advocates and employees over that choice.


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday June 27 2020, @09:23PM (39 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday June 27 2020, @09:23PM (#1013388) Journal

    You've got cause and effect backwards...since the late 50s (see Southern Strategy) the Republicans have been the party of the Klan. Socially, if not economically, they swapped places with the Democrats.

    Now imagine (I know, I know, may be asking too much of you) that you are black. Do you vote for the party that explicitly panders to people who want to be able to call you "nigger" to your face, deny you housing and jobs, and kill you with no repercussions, or do you vote LITERALLY ANYONE FUCKING ELSE?

    What makes me laugh a bit about the last few years is that a lot of white folks are acting like the problems they're suddenly facing are something new. God, no. It's just that the group of psychopaths in power has now managed to ruin so much of the country that previously "safe" white folks are now experiencing a small taste of what black, Latin@, native Americans, etc. have been dealing with since time immemorial. I really, really hope that the magic light bulb will go off over poor white peoples' heads that they have common cause with all those people they're being told to hate.

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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Saturday June 27 2020, @09:48PM (17 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 27 2020, @09:48PM (#1013409) Journal

    since the late 50s (see Southern Strategy) the Republicans have been the party of the Klan.

    We'll have those niggers voting for us for the next 200 years. - Lyndon Baines Johnson

    LBJ claimed a marketing coup over the Republicans, when he and his party jumped on the civil rights issue - which the Republicans had been pushing for more than a decade. To all appearances, the D's made the civil rights thing happen.

    And, you're another chump who believes that shit. Klansmen still vote Democrat. They know the D's are busy keeping the darkies down on the plantation, looking for free handouts.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday June 27 2020, @11:58PM (8 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday June 27 2020, @11:58PM (#1013467) Journal

      If you can say that with a straight face after seeing who is marching with the hoods and the Nazi flags, there is no hope for you. And this "keeping them on the plantation" schtick is one of the oldest, ugliest bits of projective horseshit your kind constantly spew.

      Tell you what, bro: if I were black? And I heard Johnson say that? My response would be "Lesser of two evils is still less evil, and this is a *hell* of a lot less evil than the alternative. I'll take what I can get...for now."

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      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @05:45PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @05:45PM (#1013740)

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP2bPmJJvB4 [youtube.com]

        Please watch this video. You have a very *weird* hallucination of what the 'right' is.

        Not to put too fine of a point on it you have decided the 'right' are all 'white nationalists'. You are watching too much 'left stream media'. Go listen to the conservatives, while you can, as they are being very quickly removed from the internet. They have very compelling arguments. They want everyone to be free. Not everyone to conform. They just want to be left alone and take care of their families. They usually go slow on things not because they hate you. But because everything is a system. Change one thing and you can get very strange artifacts and side effects.

        I would suspect you think that the 'fine people' hoax is not an out of context remark. Let me show you how that works "I'll take what I can get...for now". That means you want to walk into a store and steal everything in there because the stores will not call the cops on you? Right? See how out of context works. It is not even that hard. Context matters and you can try to pretend otherwise but it does. It is one of the favorite tools of our media.

        If you can read a book like the Gulag Archipelago and sit with a straight face and say what the 'left want' right now is good for our country, I do not know what else to say to you.
        Here I will even give you a link to it https://archive.org/details/AlexanderSolzhenitsynTheGulagArchipelagoVolume218 [archive.org]

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday June 28 2020, @06:13PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday June 28 2020, @06:13PM (#1013760) Journal

          I have no doubt most self-described conservatives "want everyone to be free." My issue is with their ideas as to how to get there. Specifically, they mostly seem to have this naive idea that the fewest restrictions up front will necessarily, at all times and in all circumstances, result in the most freedom for the greatest number of people.

          And I've pointed out that here in the F/OSS world we have our own living counterexample, that being the BSD vs GPL dust-up. The GPL, on the surface of it, appears to grant less freedom and has more restrictions. In practice, BSD-licensed code can be appropriated wholesale and the source closed off by $BIGCORP_INC and there is nothing the original coders can do about it; with enough of a resource base, the corporate fork *becomes* upstream and the original is essentially relegated to the status of "fork." End result, parasites profiting off others' hard work. It's not hard to see the parallels to less computer-y and more earthy concerns, is it?

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      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:55PM (5 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:55PM (#1013810) Journal

        Oh - who is marching with hoods and masks? That would be Antifa, these days.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday June 29 2020, @01:43AM (4 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday June 29 2020, @01:43AM (#1013928) Journal

          This may surprise you, but these days a lot of people are wearing masks. Something about some virus? And it seems to be working. Masks, of course, are for weak liberal soyboys. Go out there maskless and mingle in the biggest crowd of people you can find. Please.

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          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 29 2020, @04:05PM (3 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 29 2020, @04:05PM (#1014128) Journal

            Go out there maskless and mingle in the biggest crowd of people you can find. Please.

            You have obviously forgotten who and what I am. I'm the asocial asshole, remember? I don't like people all that much. I don't like people en masse.

            All the same, I'm navigating today's world without a mask. I actually have one, for those times and places when I simply can't operate without appeasing the witless wonders. I can put the damned thing on, if I feel like it.

            Last Thursday, during a more-or-less routine bloodwork thing, I was asked if I wanted them to check for Covid19. Still waiting on the results. Ideal results would be, I've contacted, contracted, and defeated the damned virus, all without knowing it at the time.

            Herd immunity. Discard the weak, the injured, the old, the sick - let the wolves have them, and keep the herd strong. Heed the wisdom of the Buzzard's posts on the subject. Who understands life and death any better than the Grim Reaper, and his buzzard companions?

            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday June 30 2020, @01:56AM (2 children)

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday June 30 2020, @01:56AM (#1014336) Journal

              "Asocial" you may be, but until you isolate yourself from the rest of humanity and eke out a living eviscerating squirrels with your teeth in the deep dark backwoods of Arkansas, you still live among humans, with all that that entails. You're antisocial, not asocial. Your complete selfishness is utterly maladaptive in any functioning society.

              I'm being serious here: if you want to be "asocial," cut yourself off from all human contact and do everything alone from here on. Put your money where your mouth is. Because otherwise, you're just fooling yourself (and failing to fool everyone else): you want the benefits of society without paying the dues. To hell with that and to hell with you.

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              • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday June 30 2020, @02:44AM (1 child)

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 30 2020, @02:44AM (#1014342) Journal

                You can be as serious as you like: it doesn't make you right. Social, asocial, antisocial - it's kinda like a spectrum. Somewhere near the middle, you have people who don't need or want a lot of contact with other people, don't need or want a steady diet of approval from their peers.

                Run along and be serious on some other person's time.

                • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday July 01 2020, @01:02AM

                  by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday July 01 2020, @01:02AM (#1014806) Journal

                  Make me :)

                  You know how you can make me? By putting your money where your mouth is, pissing up the proverbial rope, and enjoying your solitude.

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    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @12:52AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @12:52AM (#1013487)

      > Klansmen still vote Democrat.

      Can you cite anything that supports that claim? Because here's one that says exactly the opposite,
          https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-KKK-members-vote-Republican [quora.com]

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:34PM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:34PM (#1013805) Journal

        Before I even clicky the linky - I'll note, "oooh, Quora, the place where a lot of assholes go to express their opinions on the question of the day!"

        Oh - the "history lesson" which I already addressed above. I told 'Zumi that Johnson counted coup on the Republicans when he stopped fighting a losing battle against the civil liberties movement, and "owned it" for himself. Nothing more, and nothing less, than a marketing coup. And, fools and suckers everywhere suddenly believe that Johnson actually cared one little bit about some black guy being beaten to a pulp just because he was black.

        Again - it's all bullshit, and just because someone stated the same thing on Quora doesn't mean that I'll start believing it.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday June 29 2020, @01:44AM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday June 29 2020, @01:44AM (#1013929) Journal

          Runaway, God himself could tell you something and you wouldn't believe it...

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Thexalon on Sunday June 28 2020, @01:33AM (3 children)

      by Thexalon (636) on Sunday June 28 2020, @01:33AM (#1013505)

      Yeah, that sounds really convincing, except for the part where you're 100% either wrong or misleading about everything in your post.

      First off, the only things that LBJ specifically did to benefit black people was give them:
      1. The right to vote. Which they were supposed to have since 1865 per the 15th Amendment, but largely didn't at the time and still somewhat don't due to ongoing intentional efforts to prevent them from voting.
      2. The right to go everywhere that white people can go, and do business the way white people do. Which they really couldn't in 1964, with still quite a lot of segregation. And thanks to redlining and other de facto segregation policies, they still can't do even with the Civil Rights Act.
      Yeah, some real handouts that got black people just sitting around the 'hood. /sarcasm

      If you're going to claim that you're referring to Medicare, Medicaid, and the War on Poverty, they apply to everybody and are quite popular across a wide variety of demographics, and I find it fascinating that "doing what a large percentage of citizens want" is a bad thing for a politician to do in your mind.

      Second, the split between the Democrats and racists started during the FDR administration, and really came to the fore in 1948 when the "Dixiecrats" led by Strohm Thurmond left the Democratic Party and ran in the general election. And what you're describing as Republican support for black people is Dwight Eisenhower doing his duty to enforce Supreme Court decisions. By 1960, JFK and in particular Robert Kennedy were embracing what civil rights advocates were pushing, and had picked LBJ as his running mate specifically to reassure the racist wing of the Democratic Party. It was Bobby Kennedy, and Martin Luther King Jr, who pushed LBJ to embrace the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. By 1968, the racists (e.g. George Wallace) were fed up with the national Democratic Party, and Strohm Thurmond led a large contingent of racists to the Republicans at the invitation of Richard Nixon, and with very few exceptions (most notably the now-deceased Robert Byrd) were and are Republicans.

      Third, as for the Klan's voting preferences, they've endorsed Donald Trump in the last 2 elections, various alt-right public figures have declared that Trump is one of their own, and in general has been very happy with what Republicans have been doing. And the Republicans sure didn't like it when a black guy got very much off the plantation and was president of the United States ... as a Democrat.

      Fourth, while you can certainly make the argument that Democrats are no friend of black people (e.g. Bill Clinton's role in mass incarceration), I sure don't see the Republicans trying to, say, stop cops from beating up or murdering black people in police custody. And I do see the Republicans employing avowed white supremacists as senior policy advisors. So don't try to seriously tell me the Republicans are anti-racist.

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      • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:41PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:41PM (#1013808) Journal

        I don't believe I ever stated that R's are anti-racist. I have stated repeatedly that the R's are probably less racist than the D's. You mentioned Clinton and his role in mass incarceration, right? And - what exactly is the biggest thing that works against the black family? Maybe, the fact that Daddy is in prison, all the uncles are in prison, and the only role models for young black men in the hood are old men, convicts themselves, who never learned how to be a role model?

        Between prison for profit, and Margaret Sanger's weed killing genocidal abortion clinics, young black men really have very little going for them.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday June 29 2020, @01:46AM (1 child)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday June 29 2020, @01:46AM (#1013931) Journal

        You know he's not listening and never will listen, right?

        That said, *please keep doing this.* It will be on the record that you laid out the facts, and got, well, the kind of responses he always gives people. Keep fighting the good fight, for the benefit of the people who see him interacting with others if nothing else.

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        • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday June 29 2020, @01:36PM

          by Thexalon (636) on Monday June 29 2020, @01:36PM (#1014058)

          I know he's not going to be convinced - the reply wasn't for his benefit, but for the benefit of anyone who might be tempted to believe him.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @04:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @04:43AM (#1013566)

      Speaking of chumps, anyone who believes any shit you say is the biggest chump of all.

      Seriously, you are promoting ignorance and hatred while masking it as truth and love. It is disgusting.

  • (Score: 2) by Kitsune008 on Saturday June 27 2020, @10:00PM (12 children)

    by Kitsune008 (9054) on Saturday June 27 2020, @10:00PM (#1013415)

    I really, really hope that the magic light bulb will go off over poor white peoples' heads that they have common cause with all those people they're being told to hate.

    I admire and respect your optimistic hope, but I fear your(and my) pessimism is more justified.

    On the other hand, the shit going down now is far, far more widespread than at any time since the 1960's-1970's.
    There are possibilities, elections, etc...interesting times...

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday June 28 2020, @12:05AM (11 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday June 28 2020, @12:05AM (#1013471) Journal

      Well, with any luck I'll be in Buffalo by early August and in Canada by late 2021. I don't want to be around for this crap when it hits the fan, which it is going to do. And I fear I'm too late by at least two years, but a girl's gotta try, you know?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @01:13AM (7 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @01:13AM (#1013499)

        Welcome to Buffalo! Grew up in the 'burbs and came back after college, in part because my work is tied to some specialized mechanical lab testing capability that is still here.

        To me it's a nice middle ground between the east coast (expensive, culturally rich) and the mid-west (sort of a cultural flyover). 120 years ago, Buffalo was the Silicon Valley of the country and an industrial powerhouse, supported by big hydro at Niagara Falls. Plenty of neat museums keep track of the history (but many residents don't know about the history). Since the steel plants left in the 1970s the rust belt got going here and only now is downtown being renovated in a big way, with, for example, a lot of money spent at the original terminus of the Erie Canal.

        Used to be that Canadians came from Toronto for the nightlife in Buffalo (really!) Now that's all switched around and some of the towns N of Buffalo along the Niagara River have become relatively low cost bedroom communities for Toronto.

        Like a lot of big city police forces, the City of Buffalo has a cop problem (apparently their union is a big part of this). I was warned as a kid (1960s) to watch my step when downtown.

        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday June 28 2020, @01:51AM (6 children)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Sunday June 28 2020, @01:51AM (#1013512) Journal

          Buffalo. Jesus. If you're from Buffalo you're already used to living in post-apocalyptic America.

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          • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @03:21AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @03:21AM (#1013548)

            Buffalo is nothing like that at all. There are a few gritty parts of downtown but out here in the 'burbs things are fine. The weather keeps things interesting, if you don't like it, just wait a half hour--that's what happens when you are between two of the Great Lakes. But for all that, the area has never seen 100F and rarely stays below 0F, all because of the moderation by the lakes. Of course we have plenty of good water and it's cheap--so cheap in the city of Buffalo that (last time I checked) it's not metered--water bills are based on the number of toilets/tubs/sinks in the house.

            Perhaps 30 years ago, NY State started re-building roads with wide shoulders for biking and walking, now the majority of roads have 6 feet(2 meters) or more paved to the outside of the white line. Even on the big roads cycling is pretty nice. With infrastructure originally designed for a larger city, rush hour barely exists for car drivers, it's about 20 minutes to anywhere in the metro area.

            We have Wegmans grocery (originally from Rochester NY) which regularly wins "Best place to work" awards. When I take visitors there from anywhere in the world, they all wish they had a similar market. Whole Foods tried to move in on Wegmans a few years ago, it's a little far for me but I've been a few times and the place is a ghost town, while Wegmans is always busy.

            It's about a half hour to Niagara Falls, so naturally we take visitors and it's hard to get tired of seeing all the water from this corner of the continent at once, the sheer power is always amazing. There are all sort of interesting places around the Falls too that locals know about.

            I'm a bit old for the music scene these days, but when I was younger, there were national touring acts coming through all the time, and this continues.

            I'll stop boring you now, hopefully you realize that the image you have formed of Buffalo, from whatever sources, is far from complete.

            • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:27PM

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:27PM (#1013800) Journal

              Upstate New York is a fine region. The Finger Lakes are beautiful country. But while I'm glad you like Buffalo, to me it is one of the most depressing cities in America, about double what Detroit is. For my money, if a person wanted to live in a place called Buffalo they'd be much better off choosing Buffalo, WY, south of Sheridan and on the doorstep of the Bighorn National Forest, or even Buffalo, SD, NE of Devil's Tower.

              To each his own.

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          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday June 28 2020, @06:15PM (3 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday June 28 2020, @06:15PM (#1013762) Journal

            Stay out of the East side, most of the South side, and mind your business downtown and you'll be fine. I've spent a grand total of about 96 hours in the city and already know a good chunk of it including most of Downtown and the West Side like the back of my hand. I have to admit my traumatized, burned-out mind prefers the slower pace of Erie, but this country isn't survivable anymore and it's not for nothing that I'm moving somewhere you can literally walk to Canada from.

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            • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:11PM (2 children)

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:11PM (#1013789) Journal

              Sault Ste. Marie, MI, in the Upper Peninsula is what you want. You can walk across to Sault Ste. Marie, ON. Nobody is around in the UP to care, and the people on the Canadian side would scarce bat an eyelash it's so quiet on their side. Once there you can melt into the Lake Superior Highlands or the vast emptiness of Western Ontario and nobody would ever know different.

              Buffalo is a psychic vortex from which few escape, and the Canadian side there is relatively populous and prosperous that they might object to Upper Mexicans (read: Americans) sneaking across the border.

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              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday June 29 2020, @01:49AM (1 child)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday June 29 2020, @01:49AM (#1013934) Journal

                I don't intend to "sneak," thank you *very* much. I am a certified pharmacy technician, registered with the PTCB, and passed the national qualifier with a perfect 1600 this February. I intend to start seeking interviews in Fort Erie, Hamilton, and Niagara Falls (Canadian side of course) as soon as the border opens, with the goal of securing a work permit and residency rights by 2022 if at all possible. Inpatient (hospital) is what I'll be aiming for but working in one of the numerous outpatient pharmacies is fine too. And, who knows? I may pursue an ultrasound cert to broaden my skillset before applying anywhere in Canada, since odds are the border's going to be closed a while.

                How much time have you spent in Buffalo?

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 29 2020, @02:50AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 29 2020, @02:50AM (#1013958)

                  I'm the AC above, born mid-50s, grew up in Buffalo suburbs. Had very little contact with downtown Buffalo until the end of high school. At that time I started helping older friends build a race car. Their shop was downtown and a block from the old "red light district" and I was there several nights every week. From my base of suburban naivety, I got an education in the seamier side of Buffalo very quickly!

                  For example, one of the older guys had kept in touch with a high school friend who was a member of the vice squad. He'd stop by in the evening and tell stories of idiot johns that he'd busted. He probably didn't tell us about the pimps that paid him off to leave their prostitutes alone...

                  Went to college in Boston, have spent lots of time in CA (consulting), but always came back to relaxed Western NY. No earthquakes, no poisonous snakes or plants (to speak of), almost no tornadoes, and as you say, Canada is right there to experience a different country (have a number of Canadian friends).
                   

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday June 28 2020, @08:02AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 28 2020, @08:02AM (#1013602) Journal

        I don't want to be around for this crap when it hits the fan, which it is going to do.

        That is wise.

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      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @03:53PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @03:53PM (#1013710)

        if you love multiculturalism so much why are you fleeing our "diverse strength" and running to a whiter country (for now)?

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday June 28 2020, @06:17PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday June 28 2020, @06:17PM (#1013763) Journal

          Right now, pal, I live in Erie PA. This city is whiter than the inside of a jar of mayo in a blizzard if you go more than a mile off State Street. Go more than 5 miles, and you can actually hear banjos. And the places in Canada I intend to move into are very much multicultural :)

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Saturday June 27 2020, @10:12PM (6 children)

    by hemocyanin (186) on Saturday June 27 2020, @10:12PM (#1013419) Journal

    You pretend that America in 2000 or 2010 or now is the same as it was in 1950. It's simply not true -- those on your side seem to have no trouble with flat out lies.. Even in the 80s and 90s we knew not to say the N word, whether to someones face or not. Was society perfect? Of course not, but neither was it "burn everything down, dox and destroy randomly" bad.

    It's getting bad now -- collateral damage caused with impunity by the white woke: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/stop-firing-innocent/613615/ [theatlantic.com]

    What happened to Emmanuel Cafferty is an especially egregious example. At the end of a long shift mapping underground utility lines, he was on his way home, his left hand casually hanging out the window of the white pickup truck issued to him by the San Diego Gas & Electric company. When he came to a halt at a traffic light, another driver flipped him off.

    Then ... the other driver began to act even more strangely. He flashed what looked to Cafferty like an “okay” hand gesture and started cussing him out. When the light turned green, Cafferty drove off, hoping to put an end to the disconcerting encounter.

    But when Cafferty reached another red light, the man, now holding a cellphone camera, was there again. “Do it! Do it!” he shouted. Unsure what to do, Cafferty copied the gesture the other driver kept making. The man appeared to take a video, or perhaps a photo.

    Two hours later, Cafferty got a call from his supervisor, who told him that somebody had seen Cafferty making a white-supremacist hand gesture, and had posted photographic evidence on Twitter. (Likely unbeknownst to most Americans, the alt-right has appropriated a version of the “okay” symbol for their own purposes because it looks like the initials for “white power”; this is the symbol the man accused Cafferty of making when his hand was dangling out of his truck.) Dozens of people were now calling the company to demand Cafferty’s dismissal.

    By the end of the call, Cafferty had been suspended without pay. By the end of the day, his colleagues had come by his house to pick up the company truck. By the following Monday, he was out of a job.

    ...

    When Cafferty was wrongly accused of being a white supremacist, he fought hard to keep his job. He said he explained to the people carrying out the investigation—all of them were white—that he had no earthly idea some racists had tried to appropriate the “okay” sign for their sinister purposes. He told them he simply wasn’t interested in politics; as far as he remembered, he had not voted in a single election. Eventually, he told me, “I got so desperate, I was showing them the color of my skin. I was saying, ‘Look at me. Look at the color of my skin.’”

    It was all to no avail. SDG&E, Cafferty told me, never presented him with any evidence that he held racist beliefs or knew about the meaning of his gesture. Yet he was terminated.

    The loss of his job has left Cafferty shaken. A few days ago, he spoke with a mental-health counselor for the first time in his life. “A man can learn from making a mistake,” he told me. “But what am I supposed to learn from this? It’s like I was struck by lightning.”

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday June 28 2020, @12:04AM (4 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday June 28 2020, @12:04AM (#1013470) Journal

      Gee, it's almost like the entire system is so badly broken under the weight of its own impacted feces that it's starting to fail catastrophically. Imagine that. Who do we both know who'd been warning all and sundry on here about "cascading failures" for years now? Hmm...

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      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @12:15AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @12:15AM (#1013475)

        Poor hemo! Must be so sad, after all those years of thinking you were a reasonable liberal, to find out you are actually a conservative racist scumsucking lime lizard. I feel your pain.

        (Oh, bit of advice, to not throw your white supremacist gang signs while in uniform or driving a company rig, m'kay?)

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday June 28 2020, @06:07PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday June 28 2020, @06:07PM (#1013754) Journal

          Hemocyanin's gone off the deep end. He's dropped permanently into Karen mode.

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      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @02:15AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @02:15AM (#1013523)

        We do need to give credit where it is due. This was all predicted by our resident expert on self-inflicted cascading failure, Azuma.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday June 28 2020, @06:08PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday June 28 2020, @06:08PM (#1013755) Journal

          Have to admit, after studying so many examples of it on this site, it's hard for me not to be the resident expert. The really sad thing is I've tried to warn these people and they just accelerated their own failure, of anything.

          (PS: nice try [no, not really])

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    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @02:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @02:02AM (#1013516)

      Likely unbeknownst to most Americans, the alt-right has appropriated a version of the “okay” symbol for their own purposes because it looks like the initials for “white power”

      Ah 4chan. One of the most successful trolls ever performed.

      OP
      Guys what if we make the OK sign a white power symbol because the left is dumb enough to believe anything(attached image of Trump making the sign)

      Anon
      Fake and gay, sage

      Anon
      kek lets do it (picture of random democrat making the symbol)

      Thousands of images of random people making the OK symbol being pushed on twitter as white supremacist later, and its paying large dividends in lol's. TLDR liberals TDS is so bad they believe anything as long as it fits their narrative.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:58AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:58AM (#1013601) Journal

    I really, really hope that the magic light bulb will go off over poor white peoples' heads that they have common cause with all those people they're being told to hate.

    The good news: chances are you'll get another 50 years ahead of your life to wait for it.
    The bad news: chances are 50 years may not be enough.

    Don't hold your breath, girl.

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