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DNA Databases in the U.S. and China Are Tools of Racial Oppression
Two major world powers, the United States and China, have both collected an enormous number of DNA samples from their citizens, the premise being that these samples will help solve crimes that might have otherwise gone unsolved. While DNA evidence can often be crucial when it comes to determining who committed a crime, researchers argue these DNA databases also pose a major threat to human rights.
In the U.S., the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has a DNA database called the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) that currently contains over 14 million DNA profiles. This database has a disproportionately high number of profiles of black men, because black Americans are arrested five times as much as white Americans. You don't even have to be convicted of a crime for law enforcement to take and store your DNA; you simply have to have been arrested as a suspect.
[...] As for China, a report that was published by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute in mid-June claims that China is operating the "world's largest police-run DNA database" as part of its powerful surveillance state. Chinese authorities have collected DNA samples from possibly as many as 70 million men since 2017, and the total database is believed to contain as many as 140 million profiles. The country hopes to collect DNA from all of its male citizens, as it argues men are most likely to commit crimes.
DNA is reportedly often collected during what are represented as free physicals, and it's also being collected from children at schools. There are reports of Chinese citizens being threatened with punishment by government officials if they refuse to give a DNA sample. Much of the DNA that's been collected has been from Uighur Muslims that have been oppressed by the Chinese government and infamously forced into concentration camps in the Xinjiang province.
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @04:06PM (13 children)
The whole of Australia was colonized by criminals. If crime was hereditary, as you seem to infer, then shouldn't criminality in Australia be, if not the norm, at least measurebly higher, statistically ?
And yet, it is not.
And one more thing: Racists always seem to bring out the "blacks are X times more numerous in jail than whites, while being only Y percent of the population" argument. They seem to have a hard time understanding the "correlation is not causation" concept.
Just one more proof of your average racist's intellectual inferiority.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @04:23PM
Poor analogy. Immigration continued into Australia for white people after it stopped being a destination for criminals, so you can't say it was a static population of criminals. American blacks, on the other hand, are essentially the same population as always.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @04:40PM (2 children)
I have a simple question for you. In the British Empire in the 18th to mid 19th century, what do you think the penalty was for most of any significant crime? I assume you can get the answer there right: death. So then what does that tell us about the convicts sent to Australia? Most people exiled were sent for generally minor crimes or were political prisoners. Those that were sent their for more severe crimes were generally sentenced to life, meaning they general did not procreate. It's not like Australia was a freezone for criminals - most were used as slaves. Consequently, Australia was primarily settled by lawful settlers and people convicted for some pretty minor things. There's a really neat page that gives you the historical records here [convictrecords.com.au]. Really fun to go through!
And no correlation does not necessarily mean causation, but all causal acts will of course also yield a correlation. Blacks, by most of every single possible measurement, simply engage in much more crime - and vastly more if we restrict it to only violent crime. And consequently end up in prison much more often. You'll even find in developed black majority nations, they also see crazy high crime rates. *shrug* It is what it is. Doesn't mean blacks don't deserve to live and breed as much as the next man, but it's only by accepting reality that one can ever hope to improve it. All this flailing and identity politics stuff just ultimately means nothing gets done and things only get worse. Pretty good show if you're after a dystopia, not so much if you'd like a better society for all people.
As an aside, I'd recommend reading this [wikipedia.org] interesting article on Wikipedia.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday July 08 2020, @12:36PM (1 child)
You're trying to use facts an reason against someone's religious beliefs. Its not going to work.
The best way to deal with irrational beliefs is to trigger them so they look like lunatics when they're in a violent religious frenzy. Like when I get called a skin suit and a nazi over some common sense obvious reality, that kind of language is making someone look bad, not me, LOL.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @06:17PM
Heh. What you say applies, and it's funny that you don't see that your own bigotry is akin religious beliefs.
Oh yes definitely not you. Definitely. (lol!)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @05:52PM (3 children)
Also, I'm curious about something. A couple of days ago in France there was a group of 5 "people" who wanted to board a bus that had a digital display indicating that masks were required. The driver would not let them board the bus without having masks on. So they beat him to death. The media reports [bbc.com] are leaving out any information on the suspects. France is about 85% European/white, 10% North African, 3.5% black, and 1.5% Asian. Who do you think did it? Since we know nothing, would you assume it's 85% likely to be a group of French "people"?
If you're being at all honest, you know exactly who did this. And it's so incredibly biased towards this group that the absurdly low numerical odds (based on demographics) don't even meaningfully change the odds. I think reality is on sort of a horse shoe. In the middle is reality. On one end you have genuine racists who see everything in an unrealistic fashion and think group [x] is inherently irredeemably awful. On the other end you have people who see everything in an unrealistic fashion and think group [x] is inherently absolutely fine with any issues solely being the fault of anything and everybody besides the group themselves. Both extremes are equally stupid and equally regressive.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @06:37PM (2 children)
Well, judging by the BBC article, in this case it wasn't the usual suspects. A-rabs don't usually take dogs with them when they go out.
Le Figaro quotes the police, that the suspects are the classic drunken hobo trash European cities had, even before mass immigration: https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/bayonne-un-chauffeur-de-bus-en-etat-de-mort-cerebrale-apres-une-agression-20200706 [lefigaro.fr]
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @07:58PM
Were they wearing red baseball caps with some motto embroidered on them?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @03:53PM
I'm sure within a few days their identities will be revealed. Beating a bus driver to death for telling you to wear a mask is something the vast majority of people are simply incapable of. It makes just no sense whatsoever. This is trademark 3.5%.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @05:52PM
Psychopathy is a hereditary [nih.gov] neurological condition. [newatlas.com] Sociopathy (PCL-R factor 2 [wikipedia.org]) is more complex. [thetech.org] It's not a nature Vs. nurture argument but an interaction of both. in-utero testosterone exposure [abc.net.au] will typically be higher when one parent has a high-conflict personality and during puberty [sciencedirect.com] based on environment.
To summarize a massive area of research: traits of criminality [jamanetwork.com] are often part hereditary and part environmental. [cambridge.org]
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @05:53PM (2 children)
SoylentNews is filled with racist alt-righters.
Aristarchus was right all along. Hell, even TMB is jumping on the "fact" based racist bandwagon. So much anger about the fall of white hegemony, never in my life would I have thought it was so bad.
"Treat other people with respect."
"FUCK YOU SJW CUCK BOY!"
What a bunch of assholes.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @06:16PM (1 child)
"facts are racist"
The dynamics of criminality are well understood by everyone except criminals. What does that say about the leftists who (as recent events attest) want only to gain power by exploiting perpetuation of the cycle? Sit this one out you moron!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @02:18AM
When the facts are generated from systemic racism well yes, yes they are!
You're a racist twat, go suck some more Trump mushroom penis you degenerate douche bag.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @07:55PM
This is why we cain't have no white superemeracy! White racists are just too stupid!