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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday July 08 2020, @04:22PM   Printer-friendly
from the everything-is-fine-here dept.

USA Today reports Trump has Officially Begun to Withdraw the US From the World Health Organization as Pandemic Spikes:

The Trump administration has officially begun to withdraw the United States from the World Health Organization, even as the COVID-19 pandemic continues to grip the globe and infections spike in many states across the U.S.

Congress received formal notification of the decision on Tuesday, more than a month after President Donald Trump announced his intention to end the U.S. relationship with the WHO and blasted the multilateral institution as a tool of China. The White House said the withdrawal would take effect on July 6, 2021.

[...] The formal withdrawal comes as the United States nears 3 million reported coronavirus cases and more than 130,000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University data. Globally, there have been 11.6 million cases and almost 540,000 deaths.

Additional Coverage:
Trump administration moves to formally withdraw US from WHO
Trump administration begins formal withdrawal from World Health Organization
Trump Begins Process Of U.S. Withdrawal From World Health Organization

Previously:
(2020-05-20) Trump Threatens to Take US Out of WHO Entirely and Stop All US Funding
(2020-04-15) Trump to Halt Funding to WHO


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by tizan on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:17PM (13 children)

    by tizan (3245) on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:17PM (#1018276)

    Remove the blinkers:
    Do you think if nobody helps Congo deal with Ebola is a good thing for the world ?
    Do you think if nobody helps in preventing/educating about AIDS is a good thing ?
    Do you think not trying to eradicate polio is a good thing ?

    I can go on....

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by slinches on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:30PM (6 children)

    by slinches (5049) on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:30PM (#1018282)

    Do you think the WHO is the only way to do these things?

    Yes, there are some good things the WHO does but that doesn't mean that it is the most efficient or effective institution to handle these issues. There are other private and government organizations that work toward the same goals. Maybe some of the US WHO funding being withdrawn should go to those instead.

    • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:41PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:41PM (#1018296)

      The WHO not only dropped the ball, they put their hands over their eyes instead of ordering (which they can't do anyway) global isolation around the middle of January. This has all been discussed 20 years ago. There is no organisational plan for a pandemic. Bill Gates said it himself. The CDC and WHO isn't shit.

      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:53PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:53PM (#1018306)

        The WHO not only dropped the ball, they put their hands over their eyes instead of ordering (which they can't do anyway) global isolation around the middle of January.

        No, they advised against travel restrictions and started bleating on about "muh racism". The only epidemiological model that stops transmission between communities and the WHO advised against it. This virus should have been contained, that it wasn't is entirely the fault of the CCP and their lapdogs at the WHO. The correct response to China was "let our scientists in or we recommend travel restrictions", that's how negotiations with hostile parties are done.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @07:42PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @07:42PM (#1018348)

      Yes. Yes it is. It's on you to prove there's a different way.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday July 09 2020, @09:30PM (1 child)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday July 09 2020, @09:30PM (#1018830) Journal

        It is logically impossible for there to be more than one global health organization that the most countries acknowledge and cooperate with.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 16 2020, @02:21AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 16 2020, @02:21AM (#1022214)

          Sure, but a different way doesn't have to mean a different organization. With the US's resource, I can't see why they don't invest in following the money and pointing out all the accusation that WHO is corrupt. If WHO is is inept and truly not corrupt, then rally the Western world allies in replacing the ignorant incumbents.

          The real issue here is it is likely corruption with some dose of ignorance, but they don't want to expose it because likely everyone is also guilty of it to some extent - past & present.

    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:45PM

      by Thexalon (636) on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:45PM (#1018686)

      Is the World Health Organization the *only possible* way to combat health problems that could adversely affect the US (never mind the world, apparently that doesn't matter to you)? No, of course not: It's easy to imagine other ways of organizing around the same goal.

      Is the WHO probably useful? Absolutely. Their response, while not perfect by any means, substantially helped in lots of countries around the world. For instance, do you really think Cambodia had the resources to, on their own, limit their Covid-19 outbreak to under 200 people?

      So why did the US not benefit from the work of the WHO? Because the president and his administration consistently refused their help. The WHO offered testing kits, research cooperation, protective equipment for medical personnel, and the US chose to take advantage of none of it because they were afraid that taking help from anybody else would look bad. And now the US administration is busy demanding that kids and teachers go back to in-person school in the fall despite knowing full well that that decision will cause kids, teachers, and parents to get infected and in some cases killed.

      And why is the US withdrawing from the WHO? To preserve the illusion that the extent of the US outbreak of Covid-19, by far the worst in the world, is the fault of somebody other than the president and his administration. It's just the latest expression of that man's unofficial motto: The Buck Stops Somewhere Else.

      --
      The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:32PM (#1018284)

    what a fucking slave. fuck the WHO and fuck USA Today.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by VLM on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:33PM (3 children)

    by VLM (445) on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:33PM (#1018287)

    Well, the WHO doesn't do that. They just output Chinese propaganda.

    The WHO does not and never did have a secret sauce anyway. Some less corrupt organization will focus 100% on Ebola in the Congo instead of 50/50 some ebola work and some chinese propaganda work.

    I'm not seeing a problem.

    Besides, if the Chinese are throwing money around to promote propaganda, I'm just saying, Reddit has excellent pr0n on /r/gonewild and so forth, whereas the WHO merely pretends to help with Ebola but they never seem to finish the job, probably because finishing the job would eliminate their positive PR story.

    I'd rather see a world where an effective organization focuses on and eliminates ebola in the congo, and chi-com money supports and subsidizes naked blondes on Reddit, than the ineffective world we have now.

    I'm just not seeing the downside of doing things better. A little re-org once in a while is a good thing. Sucks for the corrupt WHO officials who thought they had a lifetime gravy train of crooked money, but F those people, I'd rather see Ebola cured or more naked chix on Reddit.

    • (Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @06:13PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @06:13PM (#1018315)

      "I'm just not seeing the downside of doing things better."

      Yet you likely voted for Trump

      Yet you don't support universal healthcare

      Yet you rant against BLM trying to stop police brutality

      You're a dumbass

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @06:38PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @06:38PM (#1018330)

        It is redundant to say the VLM is a dumbass. It is a pleonasm. That means "full of it". Trump is taking America out of the World, where we react and try to get our neighbors to pay for the wall, and put up a boarder in Northern Ireland, and let the Koch Bros(remaining) pollute the air and water. VLM is full of it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:40AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:40AM (#1018523)

      Maybe you should stick to shitposting as AC.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @08:24AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @08:24AM (#1018593)

    Africa is now China's problem, they will fuck the people there untill they beg for Whites to bring back colonisation. No chance, assholes!