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USA Today reports Trump has Officially Begun to Withdraw the US From the World Health Organization as Pandemic Spikes:
The Trump administration has officially begun to withdraw the United States from the World Health Organization, even as the COVID-19 pandemic continues to grip the globe and infections spike in many states across the U.S.
Congress received formal notification of the decision on Tuesday, more than a month after President Donald Trump announced his intention to end the U.S. relationship with the WHO and blasted the multilateral institution as a tool of China. The White House said the withdrawal would take effect on July 6, 2021.
[...] The formal withdrawal comes as the United States nears 3 million reported coronavirus cases and more than 130,000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University data. Globally, there have been 11.6 million cases and almost 540,000 deaths.
Additional Coverage:
Trump administration moves to formally withdraw US from WHO
Trump administration begins formal withdrawal from World Health Organization
Trump Begins Process Of U.S. Withdrawal From World Health Organization
Previously:
(2020-05-20) Trump Threatens to Take US Out of WHO Entirely and Stop All US Funding
(2020-04-15) Trump to Halt Funding to WHO
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Tork on Wednesday July 08 2020, @08:22PM (42 children)
Trump's behaviour is often in front of a rolling camera or posted by himself Twitter. His administration constantly has to re-interpret what he says. We're not talking about tan suits or birth certificates, here.
If you're seriously going to try to claim that people are reacting to Trump without having a reason to criticize him don't be surprised if you end up relegated to the kid's table.
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday July 08 2020, @10:54PM (10 children)
The American military needs to have an enemy, and so does Trump.
I'm old enough to remember when the Mujahideen were brave freedom fighters, but that was a long time ago and their sons and grandsons have been much more useful as "terrorists".
China was a valuable trading partner until Trump needed an enemy to blame things on, and China is a great choice, as Covid started in China and there is no arguing that they're a fairly brutal dictatorship.
That, however has never been a problem in the past and many our our "friends" are just as brutish as China is.
People like VLM who use the term "Trump Derrangement Syndrome" (sic) are of of course just regurgitating what they've heard on Fox News, and have no interest in the damage the Trump regime is doing to relationships that America might want to rely on in years to come.
I wonder if Americans might want to start having a conversation about divorce? It will be difficult, but it might be for the best all things considered.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Spamalope on Thursday July 09 2020, @12:49AM (5 children)
Xi has taken the CCP back to hardline totalitarian practices.
Lots to choose from, but lets pick one:
Why are people dismissive of things like 'no blacks' restaurant signs, kicking black people out of their homes and herding them down the street with batons as shown in recent videos? Propaganda broadcasts blaming CV-19 on dirty black people.
Why is that the country we should be 'friends' with?
The CV-19 outbreak started at the end of October, was filling hospitals in November. The CCP restricted internal travel but encouraged international travel. The CCP bought up international PPE supplies while claiming first no outbreak, then no human-to-human transmission. They had the 50 cent army make social media posts labeling anyone who wanted travel restrictions a racist via fake social media accounts. (twitter later announced deleting 170k of them)
That's ok why?
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:13AM (2 children)
Pics or it didn't happen.
Let's be quite clear. I don't care one way or the other whether we're "friends" with China or not. The people who run the massive corporation I work for however are quite fond of the billions in profits they get out of the country, so they probably take a different view and they definitely have more influence with your government than I do.
We are however "friends" with several countries who do much, much worse things to their own people, and you've never even heard of them.
Those things are all lies.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:42AM (1 child)
It was all over Twitter. [usatoday.com]
Do you not get news in NZ? Literally everything there is true and verifiable.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:46AM
There is no such thing as "the news" anymore. What used to be called "the news" is now just two sides insulting each other for entertainment and profit.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:32AM
Serious question? What behaviour (or lack of ... ?) are you seeing that is motivating you to assert this?
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(Score: 1, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:29PM
Because back in the day when Bill Clinton was really rolling on job gutting free trade deals with the third world labor market -- China contributed to his campaign. Now that the Democrats are 100% on the side of job exporting corporations who have the good grace to fly a rainbow flag and post a black square (because meaningless symbolism costs nothing and if they can get those racist border walls torn down, nobody will make over $1/day ever again), they need to pay homage to those who paid megabucks (not some piddly prole's $26).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:41AM (1 child)
>That, however has never been a problem in the past and many our our "friends" are just as brutish as China is.
>People like VLM who use the term "Trump Derrangement Syndrome" (sic) are of of course just regurgitating what they've heard on Fox News, and have no interest in the damage the Trump regime is doing to relationships that America might want to rely on in years to come.
To be fair, our "friends" who are at least as brutish as China (Saudi Arabia, I'm looking at you) have been our stalwart "friends" for long, long, long before Trump was elected. Our foreign policy has been a mess for a long time, and honestly I'm not sure that Trump has really made it much worse. Basically, he's pissed off the Europeans, and seems to be kowtowing to Russia, but he hasn't really changed much anywhere else.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday July 09 2020, @09:26PM
Oh absolutely. I was actually thinking of Indonesia, but the Saudis are not much different really.
US foreign policy has never been about human rights, it has only ever been about US interests, and the rest of the West (including my lot) have just played along.
China has not changed, but the current US administration's attitude has.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @12:45PM (1 child)
> Covid started in China
Sentinel Surveillace of waste water says otherwise:
Barcelona, 12 march 2019:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.13.20129627v1 [medrxiv.org]
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:09PM
An as yet unrefereed report. But very suggestive of earlier existence of SARS-CoV-2.
One wonders why the pandemic didn't explode from Barcelona in March 2019.
Perhaps it was a different, less severe strain that responds to the same tests as the one causing the lethal epidemic?
-- hendrik
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @06:55AM (28 children)
I challenge you to prove this comment wrong. Provide a link to an actual @realDonaldTrump tweet.
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38326&page=1&cid=1016465#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Tork on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:01AM (27 children)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @08:43AM (26 children)
http://web.archive.org [archive.org] is acceptable.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday July 09 2020, @08:51AM (25 children)
Type this into Google: trump white supremacist tweet
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @09:27AM (24 children)
Q.E.D. Again.
Pages and pages of google links to news and discussion sites claiming Trump is a racist tweeter. Not one link to a racist tweet. Not even a screenshot of a later deleted tweet.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:42PM (6 children)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:42PM (5 children)
Just to be clear, I think Trump is a shitty president. I am simply pointing out actual TDS. All the Trump haters out there endlessly prattle on about his stream of racist tweets. No one can point to a racist tweet. Not one. If Trump makes racist tweets, link to one.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:51PM (4 children)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @08:00PM (3 children)
Do you think you provided an answer?
(Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday July 09 2020, @08:13PM (2 children)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @05:15AM (1 child)
I don't really have much trust in the MSM these days. I've followed the trail through those sorts of articles before, and still never found a link to any actual Trump tweets. It's a citation circle where everyone agrees there are racist tweets because everyone says he is a racist tweeter.
I was sincere in wanting to read the alleged stream of racist tweets. Deathmonkey [soylentnews.org] finally provided a link to a tweet triplet where he tells three non-white senators to go back to their own countries if they don't like what he is doing. A single example is hardly a stream, but it looks like that's it for racist tweets.
The actual text from Trump:
Not really that extreme for political rhetoric, and while racist it is targeted at three political opponents not at a race in general.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @10:03AM
How is that racist? He didn't say they were less capable because they were of foreign origin.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:48PM (16 children)
Telling brown skinned Americans who were born in America to "go back where they came from" [thehill.com] is such a common racist phrase that it's listed as an example in the Federal Employment Discrimination guidance. [thehill.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:32PM (14 children)
The claim was Trump makes racist tweets. thehill.com is a website not a Trump tweet.
There are even twitter links on those pages. They go to other tweets claiming Trump makes racist tweets. Still not one link to a Trump tweet.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday July 09 2020, @09:27PM (13 children)
That first link was supposed to be the tweet in question.
... Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. [twitter.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @09:48PM (12 children)
Yippee. Ki. Yay. After numerous challenges, finally a tweet link.
One set of tweets aimed specifically at three political opponents. Yes, it looks like a racist attack.
Here's a question for you: If he had told Ted Cruz and Michael Bennet to go back to their countries would you have considered that racist?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @09:55PM
(Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday July 09 2020, @10:43PM (10 children)
Thank you for the concession. I thought you weren't being sincere earlier, you showed me. Good job, man.
The answer to that question is speculative, but let's explore it real quick. Why would Trump use that phrase with either of those guys? Can you provide a plausible situation where he might do that to either of those two gentleman? Preferably something more likely than remarking on Cruz's father's Cuban heritage?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @10:51PM (9 children)
Both are current senators who were born outside the USA.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday July 09 2020, @11:36PM (8 children)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @04:56AM (7 children)
They are both white males born outside the country. Would telling them to go home be racist?
If so, then racist against who?
If not, why the different standard for WOC?
Isn't having different standards for different races the very definition of racism?
(Score: 2) by Tork on Friday July 10 2020, @05:59PM (6 children)
Do you know what the difference between manslaughter and murder is?
Heh. It would have been nice if you had actually read those links he had provided instead of going "I WANT TWEETS I WANT TWEETS*" because that exact question was not only answered, but it also answers your first question about 'what is racist' directly. There's a significant distinction between those four ladies and these two gentlemen and I'm not referring to their physical appearance or their gender, here. Well.. four people, if the other two had actually been involved this entire dynamic would be different with a very good chance of it ending in your favor... Fun. Anyway, do your homework. The short version is: There isn't a different standard that would be applied between the two groups.
We're not talking about statutory offenses, here. The direct answer to your question is 'no' because there isn't a different standard being applied, you'll need to update your hypothetical with more information, the current version of it does not provide a clear 'yes' or 'no' as to whether its racist. The answer you're aiming for is still no, but you'll need a better understanding what happened with Trump's targets before I can make that clear to you. The short version is there isn't a different standard between the two but how you phrase your hypothetical can change that.
Incidentally, because you have chosen this particular hill to die on instead of the nice clear-cut example I gave you, it's gonna be a lot harder to give you clarity because of an additional wrinkle: He said something he was specifically not supposed to say. He's the President, he has high standards to adhere to. At that point it's not even the words that matter. I'll put it to you this way: If I'm squeezing your throat, and you can't breath and are about to die, and I say "I love you!", that won't actually reduce my sentence. If, instead, I had only threatened you to the point that you needed a restraining order, and I never touched you, me saying "I love you" is nowhere near as powerless as it was in the last example. This, as a concept, is important to understand, especially since this example is so nuanced. (I'll concede that this straw man I created is terrible and not worth getting into a lot of nitpickery about the specifics, I'm only using it fleetingly to illustrate a concept.)
The reason for me sending you Google terms to search for is really starting to become apparent, here.
*For the record, I mean no personal disrespect, would have preferred to have been less abrasive with that remark but doing that just made this post a lot longer.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @03:57AM (5 children)
What example? In all of your posts you did not once link to a racist tweet.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday July 11 2020, @07:27AM (4 children)
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(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @07:40AM (3 children)
No, I did not. And since you cannot link to it, I must presume it does not exist.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday July 11 2020, @07:59AM (2 children)
Neither convinced nor distracted. You've got quite a bit on your plate. :)
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(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:54PM (1 child)
And again. I have continued this discussion in good faith, but I do not know of this alleged tweet. As I said, your google search linked to many pages alleging racism, but zero tweets from Trump.
If your reply does not link to an actual tweet I will assume you are a troll and rspond no further.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Tork on Saturday July 11 2020, @05:39PM
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:42PM
Racism is over, you're just a buncha whiny pink haired pinkos!!!1!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:45PM (1 child)
This is a quote from the White House Press Secretary from YESTERDAY!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @05:21AM
Quoting out of context. He said he wants to cut funding to schools that stay closed. Seems reasonable, if they are not open, they should cost less. That does not conflict with wanting to increase education funding in general.