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Millions losing access to internet:
Millions of people look set to lose access to the free and open internet as China’s control over Hong Kong increases.
A new law was ushered in by Beijing last month that gave China sweeping powers over opposition against itself, both within its borders and outside of them, which could put people in jail for years if they commit vaguely defined political crimes.
The controversial national security law was used to make arrests within hours.
[...] Hong Kong police now have sweeping powers to order social media platforms and publishers to remove content, as well as ban the platforms altogether.
Undefined “exceptional circumstances” also give police the right to seize and search electronic devices.
A number of tech companies including Google, Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft and Zoom have said they’re pausing the review of law enforcement requests for data or stopping it altogether while they assess the impact of the new law.
[...] Tech companies and many others have been balancing a desire to uphold support for Hong Kong independence during recent protests with the desire to avoid annoying the Chinese government and losing access to its market of 1.4 billion, increasingly upwardly mobile citizens.
Hong Kong Downloads of Signal Surge as Residents Fear Crackdown
Hong Kong downloads of Signal surge as residents fear crackdown:
The secure chat app Signal has become the most downloaded app in Hong Kong on both Apple's and Google's app stores, Bloomberg reports, citing data from App Annie. The surging interest in encrypted messaging comes days after the Chinese government in Beijing passed a new national security law that reduced Hong Kong's autonomy and could undermine its traditionally strong protections for civil liberties.
The 1997 handover of Hong Kong from the United Kingdom to China came with a promise that China would respect Hong Kong's autonomy for 50 years following the handover. Under the terms of that deal, Hong Kong residents should have continued to enjoy greater freedom than people on the mainland until 2047. But recently, the mainland government has appeared to renege on that deal.
[...] The New York Times reports that "the four major offenses in the law—separatism, subversion, terrorism and collusion with foreign countries—are ambiguously worded and give the authorities extensive power to target activists who criticize the party, activists say." Until now, Hong Kongers faced trial in the city's separate, independent judiciary. The new law opens the door for dissidents to be tried in mainland courts with less respect for civil liberties or due process.
This has driven heightened interest among Hong Kongers in secure communication technologies. Signal offers end-to-end encryption and is viewed by security experts as the gold standard for secure mobile messaging. It has been endorsed by NSA whistleblower Ed Snowden.
[...] Bloomberg has also reported on the surging adoption of VPN software in Hong Kong as residents fear government surveillance of their Web browsing.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by stretch611 on Thursday July 09 2020, @12:53PM (52 children)
Sadly, the time to download the privacy apps was before the law passed.
Anyone who downloaded the programs recently will be investigated. After all, China will want to know what you have to hide if you need to get these apps.
Now with 5 covid vaccine shots/boosters altering my DNA :P
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @12:59PM (23 children)
I wonder how much more time it will take before the nukes start dropping on china
(Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:26PM (22 children)
Pray that will never happen.
The only ones to potentially do it would be the US - all the other nuclear powers don't have a serious beef with China.
If it happens, you can bet US is properly FUBARed - not only China has the capability to retaliate [wikipedia.org] but my guts tell me Russia will be willing to... umm... dispose some of their older nukes on US soil.
Remember BRICS [wikipedia.org]? The RIC in the middle all have nukes and rockets. Add North Korea too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:33PM (3 children)
actually india and china are fairly unfriendly at the moment, and India also has nuclear weapons.
just technical detail, I'm not sure they'd be willing to use them on China, despite the confruntations at the border.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:55PM (2 children)
So would they like you to think, their beef is not major enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:51PM (1 child)
China has been chummy with Pakistan, and is now seizing chunks of territory from India. Modi swept into power on a Hindu nationalist platform, so it is difficult for him not to respond robustly. They would have to shift their military posture quite a bit to do much about it, but they have the economic and technical ability to do so if they want.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday July 09 2020, @04:06PM
Wrong.
The parents got there [timesnownews.com], spanked their brawling kids [scmp.com] and all is good and dandy at the rock of peace; until the next year, that is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:38PM (11 children)
Fun topic on WeChat the past few weeks is that Vladivostok is occupied territory and that China should retake it from Russia. Discussions are getting tons of views and oddly are not being taken down by the CCP. CCP territorial ambitions know no bounds. Russia would not side with China only for them to be swallowed in the next bite taken.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:57PM (9 children)
They aren't that stupid yet - there are heaps of too low contested space for them to expand.
If I'm wrong and they actually are stupid, there will be troubles soon enough to spread CCP thin, regardless of their population (even better, because of that population).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:58PM (8 children)
When I was in graduate school in China 25 years ago my fellow Chinese students were already discussing their historical claims on Siberia. I was in the top universities in Beijing and Harbin, so those students were the children of China's elites. Right about now they're making their way up through the middle and upper echelons of power there.
In a real sense, too, the Chinese appropriation of Siberia is already well underway. There are documentaries on Amazon Prime co-produced by French and Russians that discuss how Chinese interests have been siphoning away Siberian timber and other resources. Moscow neglects its East so much that the poor Russians there are desperate to get any kind of work, and cooperate with the Chinese. If that continues, it won't be very long before Beijing formally walks in and declares it Chinese territory.
So Russia has more reason that the rest of us, really, to fear China.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by RS3 on Thursday July 09 2020, @06:03PM (3 children)
It sounds like pretty much everyone should fear China.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday July 09 2020, @09:48PM (2 children)
Yep!
Here in Canada, in school we had to learn French: I'm guessing Mandarin would be the better choice.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 5, Interesting) by RS3 on Friday July 10 2020, @12:39AM (1 child)
I've actually feared them for a long time. I kind of equate them to the Borg. They're in it for the very long haul. They may suffer setbacks along the way, but they're very industrious, smart, and very determined. I'm not sure what their end-game is, but it seems like world domination. I wish I understood why people can't live in peaceful harmony.
I remember about 30 years ago a Chinese national was working in one of the US's top govt. labs- probably Lawrence Livermore- doing super-secret work, and it was discovered that he had been sending info to mainland China. DUH was my reaction. Mid 90s a co-worker was a Chinese national doing some kind of software development (medical diagnostics equipment) and he was pretty non-social, rarely talked. One day we were talking a little, and I don't remember what led up to it, but he blurted out "we will dominate you and take over the world". I just remembered thinking "why is he even allowed to work here, getting paid to gather our scientific and engineering knowledge?"
(Score: 4, Interesting) by pdfernhout on Friday July 10 2020, @03:48AM
When I was working at the IBM Speech Group circa 2000 I heard that a Chinese national was caught copying all the source code of IBM's ViaVoice speech recognition software to send to China. Not sure what happened to her in the end...
Of course, what goes around comes around:
Westerners smuggled silk worms from China (despite a death penalty):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling_of_silkworm_eggs_into_the_Byzantine_Empire [wikipedia.org]
"In the mid-6th century AD, two monks, with the support of the Byzantine emperor Justinian I, successfully smuggled silkworm eggs into the Byzantine Empire, which led to the establishment of an indigenous Byzantine silk industry. This acquisition of silk worms from China allowed the Byzantines to have a monopoly of silk in Europe."
US American then took British textile technology illegally (relative to Britain's laws):
https://sites.google.com/a/imagineprep.com/theindustrialrevolution/inventors/samuel-slater [google.com]
"Known as the “Father of American Industry” Samuel Slater was an American Industrialist. He brought British textile technology to America. Slater established tenant farms and towns around his textile mills. He has built several successful cotton mills in New England and established the town of Slatersville, Rhode Island. Without drawings or models, he continued to build machines, doing much of the work himself. By December 20, 1790 Slater had built carding, drawing, and roving machines. He was born June 9, 1768 in Belper, Derbyshire, England. He brought the Industrial Revolution to the United States from Great Britain. It was illegal to export textile technology such as parts, designs, sketches; he memorized the construction plans for the Arkwright factory. He did not tell anyone of his plans of leaving including his family. When he was at the docks, he told the authorities that he was a farm laborer."
And now the USA wants (in theory) to prevent technology it developed from going to China... I say in theory because (ignoring what happens in the USA) it just seems stupid (regardless of contracts or laws) to hand over all your manufacturing know-how to Chinese factories if you really wanted to keep it secret... Or even to keep US citizens continually learning how to make things better since if you only have a theoretical knowledge of manufacturing it can be hard to design good things...
And even back around 2000 there were good FOSS efforts like CMU's Sphinx for Voice Recognition (if maybe not quite as good and likely tuned with less speech samples then IBM's ViaVoice was then).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMU_Sphinx [wikipedia.org]
"In 2000, the Sphinx group at Carnegie Mellon committed to open source several speech recognizer components, including Sphinx 2 and later Sphinx 3 (in 2001). The speech decoders come with acoustic models and sample applications. The available resources include in addition software for acoustic model training, Language model compilation and a public domain pronunciation dictionary, cmudict."
And now there is Mozilla's effort: https://voice.mozilla.org/en [mozilla.org]
"Common Voice is Mozilla's initiative to help teach machines how real people speak. Voice is natural, voice is human. That’s why we’re excited about creating usable voice technology for our machines. But to create voice systems, developers need an extremely large amount of voice data. Most of the data used by large companies isn’t available to the majority of people. We think that stifles innovation. So we’ve launched Common Voice, a project to help make voice recognition open and accessible to everyone."
Maybe the biggest issue in all this is that the game of "Go" is popular in China compared to the game of Chess in the West. Go cultivates a much longer term perspective in many ways... And the Chinese leadership mostly has science and engineering backgrounds whereas the US leadership is mostly lawyers...
The deeper issue on living in peaceful harmony is the one I discuss here:
"Recognizing irony is key to transcending militarism"
https://pdfernhout.net/recognizing-irony-is-a-key-to-transcending-militarism.html [pdfernhout.net]
"There is a fundamental mismatch between 21st century reality and 20th century security thinking. Those "security" agencies are using those tools of abundance, cooperation, and sharing mainly from a mindset of scarcity, competition, and secrecy. Given the power of 21st century technology as an amplifier (including as weapons of mass destruction), a scarcity-based approach to using such technology ultimately is just making us all insecure. Such powerful technologies of abundance, designed, organized, and used from a mindset of scarcity could well ironically doom us all whether through military robots, nukes, plagues, propaganda, or whatever else... Or alternatively, as Bucky Fuller and others have suggested, we could use such technologies to build a world that is abundant and secure for all."
The biggest challenge of the 21st century: the irony of technologies of abundance used by scarcity-minded people.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 10 2020, @12:58AM (2 children)
From time to time, I watch something about Siberia. Recently, a video about "the coldest city in the world". It always strikes me that many or even most residents of Siberia look more Chinese or Mongolion than they look European. So, yeah, near neighbors who look like "us" want to spend money, as opposed to far-off neighbors who don't look like "us" so much.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @11:12AM (1 child)
The Sami (native Scandinavians) also have mongoloid features.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Friday July 10 2020, @03:11PM
As do Alaskan, northern-most Canada, Greenland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @03:33AM
And that is nothing new, I saw reports of that 15 years ago.
And Trump should have spent more time making a presidential decision to deepen relations with Russia as a barrier to China, rather than have the media push him around with accusations of him being some sort of Putin stooge.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @09:14PM
CCP territorial ambitions know no bounds.
Pretty weak compared to Great Britain and the zionists.
Let's just divert some Afghan opium their way and soften them up a bit.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday July 09 2020, @04:02PM (2 children)
The notion of the BRICS as a block is just a notion. None of those countries like each other. A few of them hate each other.
They would never attack the US together unless the US attacked each one of them individually first. They don't have any real connective tissue between them like, say, the ANZUS treaty.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday July 09 2020, @04:10PM
A bet would be useless, but I'd be highly tempted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:09PM
India is an English speaking democracy with major disagreements with both China and Pakistan, both countries that have uneasy relationships with the US at best. And India's population will exceed China's within a decade, if it hasn't already.
The US should really be doing more to make serious friends with them. Getting out of Afghanistan (which India doesn't really care about, but which ties the US to Pakistan) is a good step. Next step is more arms and trade deals. India and Pakistan are both sliding toward authoritarianism, but at least India isn't going to become a theocracy.
For all his faults, Trump has had a good Middle East policy. It's the one area where he's really done well.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:37PM (2 children)
All majority white nations need to form an strong international alliance, though the USA probably would have to split up in a few different pieces to have consensus on anything at all. No more wars with brothers!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 10 2020, @12:50AM (1 child)
Have you, um...read, like, *anything* about European history? All kinds of "white" folks have been massacring one another in waves for centuries on centuries there.
Also, can you please tell me exactly when krauts, micks, dagos, polacks, and frogs--'scuse me, Germans, Irish, Italians, Poles, and the French, officially became "white?" Because the 19th and early 20th-century US had some ideas about that which, put it like this, aren't conducive to some sort of pan-Caucasoid league.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @04:34AM
For those who don't know history, the real answer to your question is "when the next group of immigrants came." Throughout our history, the people who were already here banded together and rallied against the outsider "whites." The one thing I've found funny is that the "A-rabs" and Chinese have become such a large threat for the racists, there are now various groups of ethnic Jews that are now considered "white." But as you mentioned I do wonder how long these truces would last if they actually did defeat their common enemy.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:08PM (20 children)
Nope, not anyone. Some may, to serve as an example, but the majority won't.
China is a master at playing the long game, maintaining their forces on the island serves them better.
And what better justification to do it than "What?... If you see the army stationed here as a problem, well, that's your problem. We just still have traitorous dissent to quell".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday July 09 2020, @04:07PM (19 children)
No, they're not. If they were, they would never have spent the last several centuries being colonized and humiliated by pipsqueak European countries. They would never have lost tens of millions of their citizens to Japanese invasion. They wouldn't now be generating the kinds of intense resentment in Africa that it took the European colonial powers generations to achieve.
Japan has a stronger claim to being a master at playing the long game.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday July 09 2020, @04:29PM (6 children)
By itself, Japan's claim doesn't contradict China's claim.
Otherwise, be their ups-and-downs as they may, the Chinese empire (starting cca 220 BC uninterrupted to 1912) is likely older than nowadays-Japan forebears [wikipedia.org] - which ended their migration/invasion/settlement in early AC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Thursday July 09 2020, @04:55PM (5 children)
Hardly uninterrupted. Interrupted many times. Interrupted by Mongols, Manchus, Tibetans, Japanese, various European powers, weird religious cults in China, and so on. It could be argued that there has been relative cultural continuity across all those eras, but that does not constitute "master at playing the long game." In fact, the notion that they're "master at playing the long game" echoes Orientalist themes that the Europeans used in their colonialist narratives.
Meanwhile, Japan has been a lot more successful in maintaining political continuity than China has. The shogunate had a good, long run, and when the Meiji Restoration came along it was a conservative revolution that restored the primacy of the emperor. Even defeat in WWII did not do a whole lot to change Japan's underlying political system because the bureaucracy remained unscathed; today's democracy there is mere window dressing on that bureaucracy, which is a very conservative institution.
Maybe that's persuasive, and maybe not, but Chinese are no master strategists; at least, they are no better at it than anyone else.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:01PM (4 children)
Master strategist, maybe not.
Master of riding the waves of history without losing their cultural identity for millennia... I simply don't know other empires that managed this feat. The Honk Kong episode and the Pooh himself is just a blip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:21PM (2 children)
There's a country called Greece in the same place that Ancient Greece used to be, and their culture has changed about as much as China's has. Plato lived at about the same time as Confucius.
China isn't special. They're just bogger than other old countries.
(Score: 1, Troll) by c0lo on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:59PM (1 child)
Ok, I give up, the today's Greece is still empire extending into India (with many cities very originally called Alexandria), the Ottomans never existed, the flat earthers are alt-aristarchuses and kimono is a Greek word.
And if you don't get the thing with kimono, ask magister aristarchus about, he very likely watched this one during his long life and can provide the correct citation for it. In Greek, no less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 4, Funny) by Phoenix666 on Thursday July 09 2020, @10:13PM
The meaning can only be revealed with an application of Windex.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday July 11 2020, @02:34AM
You don't know any such empires. Period. For example, Wikipedia lists several that they claim are empires (for example, the Elamites, Romans, and three Tamil/Indian dynasties) which are purported to last at least 2000 years. But none of them are Chinese (and most don't have the continuity or stature to be considered empires for the length of time claimed). The longest Chinese empire lasted a "mere" 797 years, which is way long, but far shorter than your poetic lengths of time.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday July 09 2020, @06:55PM
Japan is withering and dying. They will have to start mass producing babies in the lab if they want to keep up
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 10 2020, @01:11AM (9 children)
I can't really agree with all of that. China DOES have a long history. And, China does have it's masters who can learn from history.
But, face it, China was conquered by force of arms, and a more efficient bureaucracy than China itself had. Europeans had a very definite technological edge over China during those critical colonial days.
Japan? Don't give them too much credit. China was already under the heels of Euros, as well as waging a civil war, when Japan committed it's atrocities against China. The crazy thing is, if Japan had not committed so many heinous acts against the citizenry of China, they may well have kept their toehold in China. Wander through some alternative histories, in which Japan did NOT attack the United States. Add in some ideas on Hitler not launching Operation Barbarossa. Today's world would be unrecognizable to most of us.
All of that in support of the idea that China can, and does, play the long game. Perhaps they aren't the masters of the long game, but they are certainly superior to the clowns we have leading the US.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @08:28PM (8 children)
Who are you talking about, Willis? Shang? The Chou? Kubla Khan? The Taiping? Or the Yellow Turbans? Nationalists? Or the Renmin? The Chinese invented bureacracy, and it was brought to the west by Marco Polo, and first implemented in the reign of King Roger of Sicily.
Your ignorance of China is showing again, Runaway! China was never a colony of European powers, except for very small areas like Hong Kong and parts of Shanghai. What technology are you talking about? The Chinese invented black powder, used it for pretty fireworks. When westerners got it (Marco Polo, again), they thought, "must be some way we can kill people with this!"
So it seems like you are thinking of a different country, or are just expressing your racist american view of other nations. Sad.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 10 2020, @10:04PM (7 children)
Did you actually mean to say anything here? Yes, the Chinese invented gunpowder - that's ancient history. The Chinese invented bureaucracy - again, ancient history. Only tiny parts of China were made subservient to the western powers, you say? That's interesting. How about you look up that "most favored trading partner" thing. There's a reason modern Chinese were insistent on that phrasing. They had to swallow it whole, many years ago. This time around, they made the west do the swallowing.
Maybe you can find something useful to do - like teaching your grandmother to suck eggs?
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @12:43AM (6 children)
Yes, forced, but the Shanghai Concession [wikipedia.org] was a mere 8.72 sq mi. and the French Concession [wikipedia.org] was 66 hectares (986 mu). How big is China, again, you ignoramous? Population?
China was never Colonized. Even the Japanese only took Manchuria. So get your history straight, and stop feeding us your bigoted rural American view of the world.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:16AM (3 children)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concessions_in_China#List_of_concessions [wikipedia.org]
There is a more complete list of concessions. Now, how about the conditions of those concessions? Maybe you'll tell us about how things actually worked with a concession - and at the same time explain why no western nation would willingly accept any such conditions.
And, please explain all the ways in which a concession differed from a colony.
Long story short, foreign nations were sucking the wealth out of China, pretty much the same as colonizing nations tended to suck the wealth out of their colonies. And, wasn't this the colonial period? Colony, concession, potato, potahto.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:47AM (2 children)
Silly American! Do you not know the concessions were the result of the Opium Wars? Brits selling their "product" from their "colony" of Afghanistan? And do you not know that the condition for the return of the French Concession was the removal of Chinese troops from the north of French Indochina, which lead directly to the Vietnam war of liberation? And when the French failed, the Americans stupidly stepped in, and got their butts kicked.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Saturday July 11 2020, @03:31AM (1 child)
I'll be perfectly honest with you: There is a helluva lot that I DO NOT know about China. But you keep making silly statements that are pure bullshit.
China was divvied up and parceled out amongst various European powers, as well as Japan. You can make a very good argument that China retained far more autonomy than India, or any of dozens of other colonies around the world. But, you can't win any argument that China was never colonized, or whatever you claimed a couple posts back.
If you really want to prove your superiority in regards to knowledge of Chinese history, you might conceded that China was indeed colonized. Then you might explain to all of us how the concessions were more advantageous to China than the sort of colonization that was seen in Africa, and the rest of the world.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @06:47PM
All I have to do to prove my superiority is to allow that your ignorance is as good as actual history? This is why America is not getting great again, and in fact is getting more and more stupid. You are right that there is a lot you do not know, and this notion that China was someone's colony is one of the things you do not know. You really ought to just be quiet, Runaway1911, and stop thinking you have to express yourself on all the things you do not know, which you would be ashamed of doing, if you had any idea how ignorant you are.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @06:58PM (1 child)
Manchukuo, which is "only" 12% of the land area of the entire country, sure. And they invaded other areas, too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @11:35PM
Yes? And they were expelled from those areas in less than 7 years, for the most part, and really did not have political control for most of the period, as the Communists were kicking their butts. Invasion and a shaky occupation for a short (historically speaking) period of time is not "colonization".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @03:36AM
Care to elaborate on this "intense resentment"? I see life expectency in several African countries has reached 60s now, when it was 40s before China got involved.
(Score: 2) by looorg on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:15PM (6 children)
Clearly. Also if they find that this becomes to much of an issue they will probably just block Signal communication all together or route it someplace else. It's not like Signal hasn't been blocked before in a multitude of countries.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:02PM (4 children)
can't stop the signal Mal
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday July 09 2020, @06:58PM
*snip* Yeah you can. Signal jammers are a dime a dozen also.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday July 09 2020, @09:57PM (2 children)
You can: with a sword, though....how weird is that?
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @06:52PM (1 child)
except it still got out in the end anyway
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday July 11 2020, @11:37PM
Alt-righters! They made them!
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:51PM
Steganography is the only thing that has even a small chance of sneaking through, though the sudden high trafficking of cat pictures might raise suspicions. The message has to be wrapped in an authorized protocol, approved by the ISP that enforces those kind of things, or the packet will be rerouted to bad people who will pay you an unannounced visit
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..