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posted by Fnord666 on Monday July 13 2020, @11:53AM   Printer-friendly
from the First-to-Fall dept.

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/06/887540598/the-debate-over-the-word-irregardless-is-it-a-word

All right. Let's settle something here. The word irregardless - is it a word or is it not a word? Well, this is a debate that Merriam-Webster is now weighing in on in a tweet saying that it is, in fact, a word. And that has led to a whole lot of reaction online.

Merriam-Webster has confirmed that "irregardless" is a word in the dictionary, despite concerns from teachers that it is not.

So fellow Soylentils, irregardless of my opinion, what do your think?

See Also:
Is 'Irregardless' a Real Word?
Definition of irregardless


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  • (Score: 2) by inertnet on Monday July 13 2020, @03:04PM (17 children)

    by inertnet (4071) on Monday July 13 2020, @03:04PM (#1020337) Journal

    Can the meaning be reasonably understood by a English speaker?

    I'm not sure. The prefix "ir" is a negation. A good example of this is 'regular' versus 'irregular'. So irregardless means the opposite of regardless to me, but I assume that most people will say that these words have the same meaning. I don't know the proper opposite of 'regardless', or if such a word even exists.

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  • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Monday July 13 2020, @03:08PM (15 children)

    by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 13 2020, @03:08PM (#1020344)
    Are you honestly telling me before today you did not know "irregardless" is a informal synonym of "regardless"? If the answer is no, then my statement stands.
    • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Monday July 13 2020, @03:24PM (11 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 13 2020, @03:24PM (#1020364) Journal

      Are you honestly telling me before today you did not know "irregardless" is a informal synonym of "regardless"?

      Yes.
      Nobody except some USians use it.

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      • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Monday July 13 2020, @03:31PM (10 children)

        by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 13 2020, @03:31PM (#1020379)
        How would you know that if you never heard of the word before?
        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday July 13 2020, @03:39PM (9 children)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 13 2020, @03:39PM (#1020388) Journal

          I can still RTFA and research around; is not a crime, is it?

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          • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Monday July 13 2020, @03:48PM (7 children)

            by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 13 2020, @03:48PM (#1020399)
            Just seems odd you managed to come to a research and come to a solid conclusion about the usage patterns of a word you literally only found out existed in the past 4 hours. In other words: I feel like you are lying to me here.
            • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday July 13 2020, @03:55PM

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 13 2020, @03:55PM (#1020406) Journal

              I feel like you are lying to me here.

              You can feel what you want.

              Here's one [soylentnews.org] - saying that's dialectal. By the number of outraged USians, I get that not all of them accept it.

              Here's another [lascribe.net] - no, it's not an eggcorn, even if it should.

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            • (Score: 3, Informative) by deimtee on Monday July 13 2020, @04:36PM (5 children)

              by deimtee (3272) on Monday July 13 2020, @04:36PM (#1020432) Journal

              Irregardless of what you say, I have to agree with c0lo that the word is not used here in Oz.

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              • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Monday July 13 2020, @05:00PM (4 children)

                by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 13 2020, @05:00PM (#1020451)
                Oz?
                • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Monday July 13 2020, @09:44PM (2 children)

                  by MostCynical (2589) on Monday July 13 2020, @09:44PM (#1020734) Journal

                  Oz.. short for "Australia", when pronounced with an "OZ traa lyn" accent (try not to open your mouth or move your tongue, to get the proper effect)

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                  • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Monday July 13 2020, @10:55PM (1 child)

                    by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 13 2020, @10:55PM (#1020803)
                    Never heard of it, you sure that's really a word?
                    • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Tuesday July 14 2020, @12:26AM

                      by deimtee (3272) on Tuesday July 14 2020, @12:26AM (#1020854) Journal

                      Yep.

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                      If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:22AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:22AM (#1020898)

                  You gotta take one of those flying houses to get there.

          • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Monday July 13 2020, @09:40PM

            by MostCynical (2589) on Monday July 13 2020, @09:40PM (#1020731) Journal

            reading TFA may be a crime of some sort; even reading TFS is optional for some people.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by inertnet on Monday July 13 2020, @03:47PM (1 child)

      by inertnet (4071) on Monday July 13 2020, @03:47PM (#1020397) Journal

      I may have seen the word before, but it just sounds wrong to me. I'm not an American, nor am I a native speaker of any other version of English. But I do speak several other languages and I recognize the 'ir' prefix as a negation. Which makes 'irregardless' a tripping word for me, just like "its vs it's" errors. My reading flow, or reading speed, gets interrupted by language errors like that.

      • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Monday July 13 2020, @04:09PM

        by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 13 2020, @04:09PM (#1020415)
        Well, it should sound wrong, but contextually it should still be possible to discern the meaning when seeing it used. Plus being a non-native speaker I'm sure you have run across many situations where even proper English doesn't always strictly play by its own rules.
    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Dr Spin on Monday July 13 2020, @08:45PM

      by Dr Spin (5239) on Monday July 13 2020, @08:45PM (#1020670)

      Are you honestly telling me before today you did not know "irregardless" is a informal synonym of "regardless"?

      No, I thought it was a flag to indicate the author was a barely literate hill-billy

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @06:27PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @06:27PM (#1020551)

    The prefix "ir" is a negation.

    Actually, it isn't. The negating prefix is the letter N [stackexchange.com]. However, since the N prefix by itself is pretty voiceless and easy to miss, it's usually accompanied by a vowel. Which vowel depends on the word and the language. German uses predominantly un-, Greek uses an-, and Latin uses in-, to name a few examples. English, being a creole of Romance, German and Nordic languages, uses all of them (unable, ineffable, anarchy). Because the N is a weak consonant, it gets assimilated by most other consonants, which is how you get irrespective and illiterate, for example (but the k sound is incapable of assimilation).

    So if you want to be pedantic (and who doesn't?), the rr in irrespective is a negation. The rest is window dressing.