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The SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19 pandemic has been with us for over six months. A recent check of https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ reveals just over 13 million cases, with over a half million deaths, and 4.9 million of which are listed as active. On a positive note, 7.6 million are listed as recovered.
Unfortunately, recovered does not necessarily mean being back to the same shape someone was in pre-infection (see below).
Statistically, there are bound to be some Soylentils who have been infected (or had friends or family members who were).
I'd like to offer an opportunity for us to pull together and share our collective experiences. If you've made it through, telling others of how it went can be helpful both for the one who shares, and also for those who were recently diagnosed. Fears, doubts, and worries act to drain energy better directed to recovery.
NB: Please be mindful that "the internet never forgets". I encourage all who respond to make use of posting anonymously.
With that caution, what has been your experience? How long between time of infection and onset of symptoms? How bad was it? How are things now? What do you know now that you wish you knew earlier? What did you hear about earlier but didn't realize they meant that?
Penultimately, I realize words are inadequate, but I sincerely wish and hope that all can be spared from this malady, and those who have been afflicted may have a speedy and full recovery.
Unfortunately, it looks like that may not be as likely as we would all hope and wish for...
Ars Technica has results of an analysis of COVID-19 victims' recovery. Be aware it was from a relatively small sample of patients who had been infected and then deemed to be recovered. Two months after infection, COVID-19 symptoms persist:
As the COVID-19 pandemic continues unabated in many countries, an ever-growing group of people is being shifted from the "infected" to the "recovered" category. But are they truly recovered? A lot of anecdotal reports have indicated that many of those with severe infections are experiencing a difficult recovery, with lingering symptoms, some of which remain debilitating. Now, there's a small study out of Italy in which a group of infected people was tracked for an average of 60 days after their infection was discovered. And the study confirms that symptoms remain long after there's no detectable virus.
[...] Roughly 60 days later, the researchers followed up with an assessment of these patients. Two months after there was no detectable virus, only 13 percent of the study group was free of any COVID-19 symptoms. By contrast, a bit over half still had at least three symptoms typical of the disease.
The most common symptom was fatigue, followed by difficulty breathing, joint pain, and chest pain. Over 10 percent were still coughing, and similar numbers hadn't seen their sense of smell return. A large range of other symptoms were also present.
Journal Reference:
Angelo Carfì, Roberto Bernabei, Francesco Landi. Persistent Symptoms in Patients After Acute COVID-19 [open], JAMA (DOI: 10.1001/jama.2020.12603)
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @11:31PM (51 children)
So to "fight the power" you will choose a corrupt thief who steals your money?
At least we have the direct confessions of you morons to help alleviate our feelings of guilt when we think "what a bunch of fucking idiots, what is wrong with them???"
I know guilt is a strange concept to you what with being a Trumper and all. Guilt is a feeling some people get when they have thoughts or do things that go against their own principles. We're all fallible, sadly you are also gullible in the extreme.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @11:50PM (28 children)
My grandma fled nazi germany. She warned to flee the country when I saw people acting exactly like the democrats are right now. Everything they are doing and proposing the Nazis did in the 1930s.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @12:36AM (13 children)
And I see the same things that you do, except that for me, it's the republicans that are doing them. ("the press is the ennemy of the people !", etc)
(Score: 2, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @12:44AM (11 children)
At this point in time the Republicans are not burning stuff in the streets, trying to defund local police so federal police become more powerful, let political organizations decide which businesses are allowed to stay open, get the government meddling in everyones health, etc.
But Republicans would do that just as well, its just not the current role they are playing in the march to totalitarianism.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @12:56AM (9 children)
Democrats have done nothing productive since Trump first ran for POTUS. They've been wasting 4 years on witch hunts. Fuck Democrats, SJW's, and BLM.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:24AM (8 children)
That's odd. Where I live they've done quite a bit. Minimum wage is now $15/hour. Ranked Choice Voting will now be used for local and state elections. Cannabis was on the cusp of legalization until COVID hit. Several long-time D congresspeople have either lost their seats or will do so after November's election.
And a raft of other stuff.
At the Federal level, the 'D" congress has passed many bills, but more than 500 have been blocked (not brought up on the floor of the Senate) by Mitch McConnell (note: he has an 'R' after his name).
As such, it ain't the D's not doing anything. Where they can, they do. Where the 'R's have *any* power, they just *block* stuff, but have exactly *zero* ideas other than giving the 1% big tax cuts.
Not sure where you live but unless it's under a rock, you're ignoring all the shit happening around you. More's the pity.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:46AM (6 children)
I notice you failed to mention a single thing at the national level, 500 bills about commemorative coins isn't an accomplishment.
And minimum wage just means you are making it more expensive to train employees. Not that it matters since $15 is still nothing compared to inflation the fed and these politicians have created.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:51AM
That is one embarassing response. I'm embarassed for even having read it!
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @05:54AM (4 children)
I know it won't make any difference to your view, but you're flat wrong.
And it's not that bills duly passed by the House of Representatives [thehill.com] are *failing* in the Senate either. The Senate majority leader (Mich McConnell, R, KY) has not even brought them to the floor for debate [newsweek.com].
Even *if* (and that's a big 'if') all of those bills couldn't pass the Senate as currently formulated, blocking *discussion* of those bills, and the issues underlying them, is profoundly undemocratic (small 'd').
And no, they aren't about "commemorative coins" either. Here's a list of bills [wikipedia.org] passed by the House and the Senate during the current session.
For example, H.R. 1 [wikipedia.org] addresses expanding voting rights, limiting partisan gerrymandering, strengthening ethics rules and limiting the influence of money on our political system.
Whatever you may think about those issues, they are certainly more consequential than "commemorative coins."
What's more, upon passage of H.R. 1, Mitch McConnell said that the bill was "not going to go anywhere in the Senate." And in March 2019, McConnell said he would not put the bill to a vote on the Senate floor. [wikipedia.org]
And no, that's not the least consequential bill passed by the House this session. It just happens to be the first. There are many hundreds more, some more consequential and some less so.
$15/hour (assuming 40 hours per week, which is a big assumption) works out to $900 per week, or ~$30,000/annum. That's not nothing, and in a lot of places it's enough to eat and pay rent. But many folks can't get full time hours, can they?
Given that the *median [abs.gov.au]* (in case you were confused about what that means) income in the US is ~$60,000 [stlouisfed.org], it's certainly not going to put upward pressure on that.
As for your ridiculous blather about inflation, you don't even merit a quote:
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/ [usinflationcalculator.com]
Is it painful talking out of your ass like that?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @11:36AM (3 children)
So a bunch of rules about how elections should be performed? That is all you can come up with? Guess what, most people don't even give a shit about election between democrats and republicans. Thats why they don't vote. No one cares about that crap except red team vs blue team idiots.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:41PM (2 children)
Election laws are vitally important if we're going to have any sort of claim to being a democracy. One of the main reasons why we're rapidly devolving into a single party system is the lack of campaign finance laws preventing private interests from buying elections or donating to both sides of a race. And another is that the GOP has managed to gerrymander themselves a permanent 3-4% advantage in the house.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @05:18PM (1 child)
The US isn't a democracy... And the election laws were better before congress started meddling with them.
Why don't they do something useful like figure out how to limit the vast waste I saw when I worked for the fed gov? Like 50% of the tax dollars are wasted, at least.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @10:08PM
The US most certainly is a democracy, and election laws are vitally important. But, based upon your unfounded claims, you've got a political point you're trying to push.
The reality is that broken election laws need to be fixed and the Democrats are at least trying to address some of ti. Obviously, they like contributions so don't expect them to fix the biggest problem, but at least they realize that they need to encourage voting by mail.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday July 14 2020, @12:11PM
And that's just what the Boomers (my parents) like... they've got their waterfront property, their yachts, their fancy cars - change isn't what they want, they want to ride the next two decades into the grave on top of the world just like they mostly already are.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2020, @07:50AM
Holly fuck, your brain is fucked. You don't even have a fucking clue about Nazis or Germany, but you are trying to draw conclusions from what? Your imaginations?
1. There is a difference between protesting some government institutions and burning Synagogues and targeting businesses because owners are "not desirable". A BLM protest is not the same like the "fine people on both sides Nazi protest"
2. reforming local institutions?? If you have a organizations protecting themselves with their own unions, the fastest way to reform is to disband and rehire and screen out the trouble makers. But you instantly draw conclusions that reforming local police means they they just said "FUCK YOU POLICE, WE WANT THE BIG BAD FBI HERE ONLY!".
Your system worked so well now.... no need meddling. They should cancel that Medicare and Medicaid too, bunch of leeches! Right?
Like kissing Kimmie's ass and treating Putin like a hero? Oh wait, that's Trump, republicans just kiss his ass and elevate him to kinghood.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @06:19PM
"The Press" is completely owned and controlled by Bolshevik revolutionaries and is used to destroy the nation, and Whites in particular.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @04:21AM (8 children)
Riiiiiiiiiigggghhhttttttt.............
It was the Democrats supporting concentration camps for children.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @04:37AM (5 children)
Democrats want to take children from their families if the might get covid (eg, parent is a doctor), put them in a cage, then give them to pedophiles:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/theresa-greene-daughter-custody-coronavirus-florida_n_5e9240aac5b6765e95624bc2 [huffpost.com]
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-build-cages-immigrants/ [snopes.com]
https://www.dailywire.com/news/berlin-authorities-intentionally-placed-children-with-pedophiles-for-30-years-as-part-of-experiment-german-media-says [dailywire.com]
To be fair this doesn't seem like something nazis would have done.
(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Tuesday July 14 2020, @07:13AM (2 children)
The democrats rule in Germany now?
You do know that the occupation of Germany after WW2 ended, yes?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @12:09PM (1 child)
Other countries have been banning adoption of orphans by the US because of it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dima_Yakovlev_Law [wikipedia.org]
It is rampant.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:44PM
I didn't realize that countries were so supportive of Russian coruption.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @06:21PM
"Nazi" is a Bolshevik slur that means Bumpkin, Rube, etc. Maybe you mean the NSDAP? State Socialists?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @07:40PM
Ok, so let's walk through your links:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/theresa-greene-daughter-custody-coronavirus-florida_n_5e9240aac5b6765e95624bc2 [huffpost.com] [huffpost.com]
The suit was brought by the kids father for sole custody, the Judge granted it. If you're making the argument that this is the Ds, please tell me where you get the idea, is the judge a D? I didn't see anything about that in the article. All I saw was a parent that figured he could offer a safer home than is ex-wife, and a judge that agreed.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-build-cages-immigrants/ [snopes.com] [snopes.com]
Ok, so the facility was build during the Obama era, but with a strict 72-hour limit for use, and they were for unaccompanied minors, that is, they were not taken from their parents. Trump has taken to using them far beyond that time period, and separating kids from parents. You know, if you read past the green check mark.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/berlin-authorities-intentionally-placed-children-with-pedophiles-for-30-years-as-part-of-experiment-german-media-says [dailywire.com] [dailywire.com]
Berlin is not in the US. So I didn't bother to read this article.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:01PM
FDR was a democrat bro.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2020, @02:36PM
And Bush II as well. Separating adults and children at the border to ensure the kids aren't being trafficked has been going on for over a decade now.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @04:56AM
Nice that your grandma managed to make it to Soviet Russia! Where justice was a thing, especially for women. Say "hi" to the wife and kids, Ivan!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Opportunist on Tuesday July 14 2020, @07:11AM (2 children)
Really? Because the rhetoric is closer to what I get to see from those self-proclaimed "anti-establishment" people. I.e. the rotten system has to be taken down, let's replace it with our new perfect movement, and of course the Jew... Mexicans are to blame for everything, let's ghetto them off with tall walls. And while we're at it, let's throw some others we don't like in with them to rot away.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @11:30AM (1 child)
> In late 1933, the Reich Interior Minister Wilhelm Frick wanted to integrate all the police forces of the German states under his control. Göring outflanked him by removing the Prussian political and intelligence departments from the state interior ministry.[8] Göring took over the Gestapo in 1934 and urged Hitler to extend the agency's authority throughout Germany. This represented a radical departure from German tradition, which held that law enforcement was (mostly) a Land (state) and local matter.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo [wikipedia.org]
> Under the rule of National Socialism, the organization, financing and supervision of the health insurance funds are altered dramatically. Self-administration is abolished and state-approved directors are assigned to each fund. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_healthcare_in_Germany [wikipedia.org]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Fall_of_Mickiewicz_Monument_%281940%29.jpg/1280px-Fall_of_Mickiewicz_Monument_%281940%29.jpg [wikimedia.org]
> The German movement was the most powerful anti-smoking movement in the world during the 1930s and early 1940s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_Germany [wikipedia.org]
> . The Nazis hated private property and essentially outlawed it. Bribery was the only way to obtain raw materials, foreign currency, workers - virtually anything. Nazi party apparatchiks infested even the smallest parts of the economy.
"Some businessmen have even started studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system", wrote one businessman. https://www.amazon.com/Vampire-Economy-Doing-Business-Fascism-ebook/dp/B0052YQ1CK [amazon.com]
> A propaganda poster from 1933 attempted to degrade capitalists and Jews for opposing social programs for the public. One sub-headline on the "Down with Judah!" poster read: "Because Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich wants social justice, big Jewish capitalism is the worst enemy of this Reich and its Führer." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Themes_in_Nazi_propaganda [wikipedia.org]
Anyway, there is plenty more but the green new deal is the most nazi thing I've ever heard. I'd start your education there.
PS. Republicans are fascists too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2020, @07:53AM
And 50 years before that, there was no Germany just the local states being independent. So what's your point? What "tradition" are you talking about?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2020, @11:42PM
Why are you still here?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @12:17AM (3 children)
I don't know where you live, who you hang out, whatever.
Trump America is what America is today.
Don't deny it, it's the truth.
Actually, all you millenials ( I hate you all) , prove me wrong (or right).
Get your asses out and vote.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:47AM (2 children)
Sociopath, I still can't seem to derive pleasure knowing you old idiots are more likely to catch covid and die. I guess you gotta be raised a hateful cunt to be like you.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:26AM (1 child)
I agree with GP in one respect: Get your ass out and vote.
If you don't like how things are, *you* have the power to change it.
Even if you've been brainwashed to believe that your vote doesn't count, that doesn't make it true.
Especially in local/state elections. Want to make things better? Vote.
Vote.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:48PM
I done been voting, gerry mandering, voter suppression, and outright cheating keep fucking my country over.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:35AM (9 children)
The problem with that is that both candidates are corrupt and going to steal our money, at least if Trump wins by default there's some hope that the Democratic establishment might let the voters choose the nominee next time. There's also some hope that the green party will get their 5% as most of the folks fleeing the Democratic party won't vote Trump.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:30AM (8 children)
there's been lots of documentation about Trump's thievery.
Let's see some about Biden's.
Note that I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I haven't seen it.
Your move.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:21AM (2 children)
The money is in his son's pocket, and Daddy Joe went head hunting when some prosecuting attorney in Ukraine had the nerve to question Hunter about that money.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @06:05AM (1 child)
Oh, definitely. The optics are horrible. Sonny boy made money on his daddy's name. It stinks.
However, Hunter using his dad's name to enrich himself, as slimy as it is, isn't a crime. Even if it probably should be.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @12:12PM
Above the law: https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/joe-bidens-family-has-a-long-rap-sheet/ [nypost.com]
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @04:37AM (3 children)
Whataboutism again huh?
Yeah, when you can't argue facts, only present alternative facts, I would be yelling, "Look Over There!" too.
(Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday July 14 2020, @04:54PM (2 children)
No, he was requesting a citation.
And you failed to provide one.
So I'll say it again.
[CITATION NEEDED]
I'll be here enjoying the peaceful crickets.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @07:10PM (1 child)
It's difficult to provide citations for 50 years worth of bad behavior. There's any number of votes where he opted to benefit the rich and powerful at the expense of the regular people. Whether the money is literally being stolen in the illegal way or stolen via giveaways to the rich and powerful that are funded by shifting tax burden onto those that can least afford it is a bit of a moot point.
There's a reason why he's sometimes known as the Senator from MBNA.
Biden has regularly fallen on the wrong side of significant votes and there's no reason to believe that he'll finally get religion and start doing things that benefit regular people. The only reason that he's the nominee is that nobody bothered to vet him. None of his oponents went after him on his terrible record and the media didn't either.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @10:36PM
Pffft, get fucked troll
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @11:42AM
Biden has a 50 year history of supporting terrible policy and he shows know sign of having learned anything. He's still going to veto medicare for all even if it manages to arrive at his desk having been passed in both chambers of congress. He's still going to support measures by the credit card industry to continue to fleece consumers and he's still going to continue all the horrible neoliberal policies that have pretty much destroyed the country. Just look at the people that he wants to appoint. Billionaires and Wall St., people in charge or relevant financial departments is more or less a recipe for further stealing whatever hasn't yet been stolen.
Yeah, we can trust him to pinkie swear that he's not going to rob us blind the way that all the other neoliberals and protofascists have.
(Score: 1, Redundant) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:50AM (1 child)
Better disorganized, inefficient crime than criminals who have their racket down to a science.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:59AM
As usual you come up with a stupid troll response to maintain your world view.
You're the worst buzzy boy.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:17AM (3 children)
They voted for Clinton?!
Sounds like you're the professional guilt sink. Go forth and feel guilty.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @10:11PM (2 children)
TBH, both candidates were corrupt thieves, but Clinton was just the more corrupt of the two. When the Clintons left office they were basically broke from paying for attorneys to defend themselves. Now they're ridiculously wealthy.
They're hardly the only ones, but they did set a new standard for benefiting from holding public office. It's more than a little hypocritical of them to take anybody else to task from wetting their beak.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 14 2020, @10:29PM
I don't care about the hypocrisy so much. But when you attack someone for making a poor choice, when the other options were at least as bad, that's bogus. I doubt AC was advocating voting for a third party candidate, which would be about the only excuse possible.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2020, @08:40PM
Well hindsight is 20/20 and all but "Clinton was just the more corrupt of the two" is an obvious falsehood.
I know, you need to keep believing that in order to maintain your worldview, but sadly Trump was way way way worse and currently has the blood of 100k+ and rising US citizens on his hands on top of his corrupt gifts of tax payer money to organizations that do not need it along with his personal embezzlement and emolument violations. Don't forget his obstructions of justice to prevent people from finding out more about his crimes, or his verifiably horrendous track record of lies as the POTUS.
You should be ashamed for not regretting your choice, even with HRC being as terrible as she is.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:30PM (1 child)
The "corrupt thief" is the only one who has even talked about the massive offshoring of US jobs. Meanwhile his opposition, who are supposedly the friend of US laborers, have smilled and watched as all those blue-collare and tech-collar jobs left.
If you really want a Democrat to win, just have them address that and also support the 2nd amendment: BOOM. We'll have a Democrat president.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:48PM
That's the thing, the two parties are perfectly capable of bipartisanship, it's just that they can only do it when it's going to screw over the voters or kill brown people in another country.
Neither party is going to sit idly by while the government does things to help people better themselves without wetting their beaks.