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posted by martyb on Monday July 13 2020, @10:50PM   Printer-friendly

The SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19 pandemic has been with us for over six months. A recent check of https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ reveals just over 13 million cases, with over a half million deaths, and 4.9 million of which are listed as active. On a positive note, 7.6 million are listed as recovered.

Unfortunately, recovered does not necessarily mean being back to the same shape someone was in pre-infection (see below).

Statistically, there are bound to be some Soylentils who have been infected (or had friends or family members who were).

I'd like to offer an opportunity for us to pull together and share our collective experiences. If you've made it through, telling others of how it went can be helpful both for the one who shares, and also for those who were recently diagnosed. Fears, doubts, and worries act to drain energy better directed to recovery.

NB: Please be mindful that "the internet never forgets". I encourage all who respond to make use of posting anonymously.

With that caution, what has been your experience? How long between time of infection and onset of symptoms? How bad was it? How are things now? What do you know now that you wish you knew earlier? What did you hear about earlier but didn't realize they meant that?

Penultimately, I realize words are inadequate, but I sincerely wish and hope that all can be spared from this malady, and those who have been afflicted may have a speedy and full recovery.

Unfortunately, it looks like that may not be as likely as we would all hope and wish for...

Ars Technica has results of an analysis of COVID-19 victims' recovery. Be aware it was from a relatively small sample of patients who had been infected and then deemed to be recovered. Two months after infection, COVID-19 symptoms persist:

As the COVID-19 pandemic continues unabated in many countries, an ever-growing group of people is being shifted from the "infected" to the "recovered" category. But are they truly recovered? A lot of anecdotal reports have indicated that many of those with severe infections are experiencing a difficult recovery, with lingering symptoms, some of which remain debilitating. Now, there's a small study out of Italy in which a group of infected people was tracked for an average of 60 days after their infection was discovered. And the study confirms that symptoms remain long after there's no detectable virus.

[...] Roughly 60 days later, the researchers followed up with an assessment of these patients. Two months after there was no detectable virus, only 13 percent of the study group was free of any COVID-19 symptoms. By contrast, a bit over half still had at least three symptoms typical of the disease.

The most common symptom was fatigue, followed by difficulty breathing, joint pain, and chest pain. Over 10 percent were still coughing, and similar numbers hadn't seen their sense of smell return. A large range of other symptoms were also present.

Journal Reference:
Angelo Carfì, Roberto Bernabei, Francesco Landi. Persistent Symptoms in Patients After Acute COVID-19 [open], JAMA (DOI: 10.1001/jama.2020.12603)


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:24AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:24AM (#1020947)

    Democrats have done nothing productive since Trump first ran for POTUS. They've been wasting 4 years on witch hunts. Fuck Democrats, SJW's, and BLM.

    That's odd. Where I live they've done quite a bit. Minimum wage is now $15/hour. Ranked Choice Voting will now be used for local and state elections. Cannabis was on the cusp of legalization until COVID hit. Several long-time D congresspeople have either lost their seats or will do so after November's election.

    And a raft of other stuff.

    At the Federal level, the 'D" congress has passed many bills, but more than 500 have been blocked (not brought up on the floor of the Senate) by Mitch McConnell (note: he has an 'R' after his name).

    As such, it ain't the D's not doing anything. Where they can, they do. Where the 'R's have *any* power, they just *block* stuff, but have exactly *zero* ideas other than giving the 1% big tax cuts.

    Not sure where you live but unless it's under a rock, you're ignoring all the shit happening around you. More's the pity.

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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:46AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:46AM (#1020967)

    I notice you failed to mention a single thing at the national level, 500 bills about commemorative coins isn't an accomplishment.

    And minimum wage just means you are making it more expensive to train employees. Not that it matters since $15 is still nothing compared to inflation the fed and these politicians have created.

    • (Score: 2, TouchĂ©) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:51AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:51AM (#1020976)

      That is one embarassing response. I'm embarassed for even having read it!

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @05:54AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @05:54AM (#1021073)

      I know it won't make any difference to your view, but you're flat wrong.

      And it's not that bills duly passed by the House of Representatives [thehill.com] are *failing* in the Senate either. The Senate majority leader (Mich McConnell, R, KY) has not even brought them to the floor for debate [newsweek.com].

      Even *if* (and that's a big 'if') all of those bills couldn't pass the Senate as currently formulated, blocking *discussion* of those bills, and the issues underlying them, is profoundly undemocratic (small 'd').

      And no, they aren't about "commemorative coins" either. Here's a list of bills [wikipedia.org] passed by the House and the Senate during the current session.

      For example, H.R. 1 [wikipedia.org] addresses expanding voting rights, limiting partisan gerrymandering, strengthening ethics rules and limiting the influence of money on our political system.

      Whatever you may think about those issues, they are certainly more consequential than "commemorative coins."

      What's more, upon passage of H.R. 1, Mitch McConnell said that the bill was "not going to go anywhere in the Senate." And in March 2019, McConnell said he would not put the bill to a vote on the Senate floor. [wikipedia.org]

      And no, that's not the least consequential bill passed by the House this session. It just happens to be the first. There are many hundreds more, some more consequential and some less so.

      And minimum wage just means you are making it more expensive to train employees. Not that it matters since $15 is still nothing compared to inflation the fed and these politicians have created.

      $15/hour (assuming 40 hours per week, which is a big assumption) works out to $900 per week, or ~$30,000/annum. That's not nothing, and in a lot of places it's enough to eat and pay rent. But many folks can't get full time hours, can they?

      Given that the *median [abs.gov.au]* (in case you were confused about what that means) income in the US is ~$60,000 [stlouisfed.org], it's certainly not going to put upward pressure on that.

      As for your ridiculous blather about inflation, you don't even merit a quote:
      https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/ [usinflationcalculator.com]

      Is it painful talking out of your ass like that?

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @11:36AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @11:36AM (#1021161)

        So a bunch of rules about how elections should be performed? That is all you can come up with? Guess what, most people don't even give a shit about election between democrats and republicans. Thats why they don't vote. No one cares about that crap except red team vs blue team idiots.

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:41PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:41PM (#1021220)

          Election laws are vitally important if we're going to have any sort of claim to being a democracy. One of the main reasons why we're rapidly devolving into a single party system is the lack of campaign finance laws preventing private interests from buying elections or donating to both sides of a race. And another is that the GOP has managed to gerrymander themselves a permanent 3-4% advantage in the house.

          • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @05:18PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @05:18PM (#1021362)

            The US isn't a democracy... And the election laws were better before congress started meddling with them.

            Why don't they do something useful like figure out how to limit the vast waste I saw when I worked for the fed gov? Like 50% of the tax dollars are wasted, at least.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @10:08PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @10:08PM (#1021501)

              The US most certainly is a democracy, and election laws are vitally important. But, based upon your unfounded claims, you've got a political point you're trying to push.

              The reality is that broken election laws need to be fixed and the Democrats are at least trying to address some of ti. Obviously, they like contributions so don't expect them to fix the biggest problem, but at least they realize that they need to encourage voting by mail.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday July 14 2020, @12:11PM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday July 14 2020, @12:11PM (#1021181)

    Where the 'R's have *any* power, they just *block* stuff, but have exactly *zero* ideas other than giving the 1% big tax cuts.

    And that's just what the Boomers (my parents) like... they've got their waterfront property, their yachts, their fancy cars - change isn't what they want, they want to ride the next two decades into the grave on top of the world just like they mostly already are.

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