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posted by martyb on Monday July 13 2020, @10:50PM   Printer-friendly

The SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19 pandemic has been with us for over six months. A recent check of https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ reveals just over 13 million cases, with over a half million deaths, and 4.9 million of which are listed as active. On a positive note, 7.6 million are listed as recovered.

Unfortunately, recovered does not necessarily mean being back to the same shape someone was in pre-infection (see below).

Statistically, there are bound to be some Soylentils who have been infected (or had friends or family members who were).

I'd like to offer an opportunity for us to pull together and share our collective experiences. If you've made it through, telling others of how it went can be helpful both for the one who shares, and also for those who were recently diagnosed. Fears, doubts, and worries act to drain energy better directed to recovery.

NB: Please be mindful that "the internet never forgets". I encourage all who respond to make use of posting anonymously.

With that caution, what has been your experience? How long between time of infection and onset of symptoms? How bad was it? How are things now? What do you know now that you wish you knew earlier? What did you hear about earlier but didn't realize they meant that?

Penultimately, I realize words are inadequate, but I sincerely wish and hope that all can be spared from this malady, and those who have been afflicted may have a speedy and full recovery.

Unfortunately, it looks like that may not be as likely as we would all hope and wish for...

Ars Technica has results of an analysis of COVID-19 victims' recovery. Be aware it was from a relatively small sample of patients who had been infected and then deemed to be recovered. Two months after infection, COVID-19 symptoms persist:

As the COVID-19 pandemic continues unabated in many countries, an ever-growing group of people is being shifted from the "infected" to the "recovered" category. But are they truly recovered? A lot of anecdotal reports have indicated that many of those with severe infections are experiencing a difficult recovery, with lingering symptoms, some of which remain debilitating. Now, there's a small study out of Italy in which a group of infected people was tracked for an average of 60 days after their infection was discovered. And the study confirms that symptoms remain long after there's no detectable virus.

[...] Roughly 60 days later, the researchers followed up with an assessment of these patients. Two months after there was no detectable virus, only 13 percent of the study group was free of any COVID-19 symptoms. By contrast, a bit over half still had at least three symptoms typical of the disease.

The most common symptom was fatigue, followed by difficulty breathing, joint pain, and chest pain. Over 10 percent were still coughing, and similar numbers hadn't seen their sense of smell return. A large range of other symptoms were also present.

Journal Reference:
Angelo Carfì, Roberto Bernabei, Francesco Landi. Persistent Symptoms in Patients After Acute COVID-19 [open], JAMA (DOI: 10.1001/jama.2020.12603)


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:01AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:01AM (#1020990)

    Not seeing anything about broad spectrum in 1983.

  • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:31AM (7 children)

    by MostCynical (2589) on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:31AM (#1021014) Journal

    given in this Standard are included for the purpose of determining whether ornot a sunscreen can be classified as ‘broad-spectrum’.

    SCOPE
    This Standard sets out procedures for determining the performance of sunscreen products in terms of their mean protection factors. It includes test methods for both broad-spectrum and water- resistant sunscreen products. This Standard also specifies appropriate detailed labelling requirements

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:39AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:39AM (#1021019)

      Not even sure where that text is coming from but anyway it still doesn't say anything about how common broad spectrum sunblock was in Australia in 1983. I'd be surprised if it was common since the research on the UVA problem really only came out 2000-2010.

      • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Tuesday July 14 2020, @04:08AM (4 children)

        by MostCynical (2589) on Tuesday July 14 2020, @04:08AM (#1021032) Journal

        was from
        https://infostore.saiglobal.com/preview/293355528983.pdf?sku=117193_SAIG_AS_AS_245202 [saiglobal.com]

        Also see this [saiglobal.com]

        Sets out procedures for determining the performance of sunscreen products in terms of their mean protection factors. Includes test methods for broad spectrum and water-resistant sunscreen products. It also specifies appropriate detailed labelling requirements. The Standard applies to topical products intended for dermal application, which are represented as suitable for topical use to protect human skin from the adverse effect of solar ultraviolet rays. It applies to both primary and secondary sunscreen products as defined.

        Australia was regulating use of broad spectrum sunscreen as far back as 1983, and has been tightening the definition ever since.

        How common? Australia's skin cancer rates [wikipedia.org] would suggest "still not common enough"..

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @04:32AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @04:32AM (#1021045)

          I still haven't seen that they were worried about UVA in 1983 from your sources. But it's not like it was unknown, just people thought that was a "bonus". Now we know blocking only UVB is a big net negative because it removes the natural signal to limit sun exposure without offering protection against cancer. If you bought sunscreen before 2010 or so you were harmed by this.

          • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Tuesday July 14 2020, @05:23AM (2 children)

            by MostCynical (2589) on Tuesday July 14 2020, @05:23AM (#1021066) Journal

            As scientific opinion on an optimum method for determining the UV-A blocking capabilities of a sunscreen is also still developing, the limits and test procedures for UV-A transmittance given in this Standard are included for the purpose of determining whether or not a sunscreen can be classified as ‘broad-spectrum’

            same standard linked above

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @05:47AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @05:47AM (#1021070)

              That isn't from 1983...

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:50PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:50PM (#1021225)

                Yes, it references something from 1983, but laws regularly do that. Especially when they're being modified in one fashion or another, it doesn't say anything about what the standards were back then. You'd have to read the referenced item.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @04:24PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 14 2020, @04:24PM (#1021323)

      Off topic, but love your sig. I am excited for the final book in the series to finally come out in August!