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Original 'Rosie the Riveter' makes masks to fight COVID-19:
At age 94, Mae Krier is back on the front lines — hard at work, helping her country.
One of the nation's original "Rosie the Riveters" employed by Boeing in Seattle during World War II, she built B-17 and B-29 bombers to help support the war effort decades ago.
Now she's fighting a different war, as her still nimble fingers turn out face masks to prevent spread of the deadly coronavirus.
"People say to me, "You helped win WWII and now you are helping our country win this battle over this virus. These are nice things to hear," Krier said.
She makes the mask like the red polka dot bandanas she also makes to remind people of the Rosies, those women who toiled in manufacturing plants with their heads wrapped in bandanas so their hair wouldn't get tangled in the machinery they used to make supplies for the military serving overseas.
They were depicted by a World War II era poster of "Rosie the Riveter" created by J. Howard Miller in 1943.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2020, @06:59AM (1 child)
Hurr hurr hurr. So that part about “and these shall go away into eternal punishment,” is that literal?
His God runs an eternal, inescapable concentration camp full of fear and pain and horror and misery and torture for what amount to his political prisoners. That may very well be THE single worst idea ANY human has EVER had. You better pray that only niggers go to that place.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday July 16 2020, @01:09AM
Interesting you mention that, because in English and Latin it is, *but in the original Koine manuscripts it isn't.* This happens to be a specialty of mine: the term translated "eternal punishment" here is the Greek "aionios kolasis," made of the word for duration that specifically does NOT mean "eternal" and the word for punishment that specifically means "reformative discipline."
This is not to say aion[ion/s] can't be used to mean eternal, just that the length of time the word specifies is determined by the word that gets joined to it. There is, IIRC, an example of the phrase "God's aion" somewhere in Romans, which is obviously eternal, because of the subject it's paired with. Punishment as you are intending this verse to be read is some variant on "timoria." The use and etymology of "aion" and its derivatives is well-known throughout ancient Greek philosophy. Plato refers to the gods as "aidios" and the human body and soul as "aionios," stating that they are part of time.
Here are some things I found in the Old Testament that are said to be "aionios" in Greek manuscripts:
- God's covenant with the Jews
- The priesthood of Aaron and his lineage
- The laws of Moses
- The time the Jews were to possess Canaan
- Mountains and hills
- The doors of the Jewish temple
- A man's lifetime
- The time Samuel was to be devoted to and live in temple
- The lifespan of David
- Jonah's time in the whale's stomach
A loose translation from Plato is useful here: An example from Plato: "For the natural or accidental evils of others, no one gets angry or admonishes or teaches or punishes (kolazei) them, but we pity those afflicted with such misfortunes. For if, oh Socrates, you will consider what is the design of punishing (kolazein) the wicked, this of itself will show you that men think virtue something that may be acquired; for no one punishes (kolazei) the wicked, looking to the past only, simply for the wrong he has done. That is, no one does this thing
who does not act like a wild beast, desiring only revenge, without thought. Hence, he who seeks to punish (kolazein) with reason, does not punish for the sake of the past wrong deed, but for the sake of the future, that neither the man himself who is punished may do wrong again, nor any other who has seen him chastised. And he who entertains this thought must believe that virtue may be taught, and he punishes (kolazei) for the purpose of deterring from wickedness."
The idea of eternal torment is a pagan one, and it entered into pre-Christian thought as a result of the Babylonian Captivity; the Zoroastrians were monotheists (theologians may squabble here and declare they were dualists, with a God of good and a God of evil in Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu respectively, but, uh...Yahweh and Satan anyone...?). The Jewish clergy ate Zoroastrianism whole during the Exile, and some of what they absorbed included such familiar "Christian" tropes as a great final battle between good and evil, a savior figure ("Saoshyant"), a final judgment of all humanity living and dead, and the ultimate defeat of evil, with the cosmos being remade and brought under the rule of good and God.
Add a few centuries of lurid Greek myth (Hades, Tartaros) and some Roman influence at the latter end, and it's very easy to see where the modern theological mishmash of afterlife ideas came from (and let's not even get into what happened when Dante wrote his masturbatory little revenge-fanfic...). Long story short, Jesus would not recognize modern Christian dogma on the afterlife. Oh, and it seems a bunch of the pre-Nicene church fathers were *Universalist,* of all things! Interestingly, the further removed in space, time, and culture from the start of all this and the Greek language, the more you find teachings shifting toward Annihilationism and eternal torment.
Even Augustine of Hippo, writing centuries after the fact, does not call Universalists heretics, merely referring to them as "tender-hearted" and stating that he disagrees strongly with them and makes his own case for eternal torment. His Greek was...sketchy, let's say, and he had more psychosexual hangups than the entire backlog of Penthouse's letters page.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...