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posted by martyb on Saturday July 18 2020, @12:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the R.I.P. dept.

With morgues brimming, Texas and Arizona turn to refrigerator trucks:

Officials in Texas and Arizona have requested refrigerated trucks to hold the dead as hospitals and morgues become overwhelmed by victims of the raging COVID-19 pandemic.

"In the hospital, there are only so many places to put bodies," Ken Davis, chief medical officer of Christus Santa Rosa Health System in the San Antonio area, said in a briefing this week. "We're out of space, and our funeral homes are out of space, and we need those beds. So, when someone dies, we need to quickly turn that bed over.

"It's a hard thing to talk about," Davis added. "People's loved ones are dying."

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Crematorium Data Prove China Was Lying About COVID-19


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday July 18 2020, @03:30AM (13 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 18 2020, @03:30AM (#1023232) Journal

    You can't get past the fact that the virus originated within a few miles of that research lab. Those wet markets operated for years, without causing any pandemics. Build a research lab, that just happens to be working on bat viruses, and soon enough, we have a bat virus infecting humans.

    Do I trust the Chinese? About as much as I trust either of the US political parties to be honest.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by helel on Saturday July 18 2020, @04:25AM

    by helel (2949) on Saturday July 18 2020, @04:25AM (#1023249)

    Those wet markets operated for years, without causing any pandemics

    They've come damned [nih.gov] close [nih.gov]. The fact that the third in twenty years finally went viral isn't shockingly unlikely.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2020, @06:17AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2020, @06:17AM (#1023274)

    It is a major metropolitan area on par with the NYC metropolitan area in population. And it only takes one to get a pandemic. The hospitals of Europe had operated for years without pandemics, until they didn't. People raised and interacted with camels for millennia in the Middle East without trouble, until they didn't. If you want to extend your thinking, obviously the Spanish Flu and MERS were engineered viruses that got loose somehow from the nearby medical research facilities in the major city of origin.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday July 18 2020, @07:49AM (7 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday July 18 2020, @07:49AM (#1023288) Journal

    You can't get past the fact that the virus originated within a few miles of that research labs

    Yes, you can, Runaway1949! Repeat after me: proximity does not equal causation. Got that? Also known as the Texas Marksman Fallacy, with which you should be more than familiar, given your nimrod skills. And then, post hoc, ergo propter hoc is a very well known fallacy, just because something happens after something else, does not means it happens because of that! Truely, Runaway, you are a fount of bad reasoning! Which, I suppose, is not surprising, since you are an uneducated moron of the worse variety, former truckdriver, probably a Kid Rock fan, and prone to unnatural relations with livestock. But, carry on, my animal husband!

    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Bot on Saturday July 18 2020, @09:36PM (6 children)

      by Bot (3902) on Saturday July 18 2020, @09:36PM (#1023505) Journal

      Repeat after me: proximity does not equal causation. Got that?
      Sooo, any news about the causes of the explosions that happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki just as the allies were experimenting with gay (as in enola gay) bombs?

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday July 18 2020, @09:56PM (5 children)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday July 18 2020, @09:56PM (#1023519) Journal

        Texas Marksman Fallacy, Bot!! While proximity does not necessarily entail causation, causation does entail proximity. Unless you want the "spooky action at a distance" of magic, or conservative medicine.

        • (Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday July 19 2020, @10:29PM (4 children)

          by Bot (3902) on Sunday July 19 2020, @10:29PM (#1023840) Journal

          Causation does not entail proximity, my dear materialist. For example the wife that causes the cuckold is generally at a significant distance from him.

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          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Monday July 20 2020, @12:10AM (3 children)

            by aristarchus (2645) on Monday July 20 2020, @12:10AM (#1023868) Journal

            Of course it does, my dear, oh, dear, spiritual mechanism? This proves once and for all that religion must the be result of bad programming.

            • (Score: 1, Troll) by Bot on Monday July 20 2020, @03:59AM (2 children)

              by Bot (3902) on Monday July 20 2020, @03:59AM (#1023966) Journal

              Ran out of arguments, poor Ari. As usual.

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              • (Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Monday July 20 2020, @10:21AM (1 child)

                by aristarchus (2645) on Monday July 20 2020, @10:21AM (#1024022) Journal

                Once you go "non-materialist", there really are no arguments to be made. "I have a plastic Jesus, and I don't care if it rains or freezes, setting on the dashboard of my car! I don't care come hell of high water, I'm gonna do what Jesus says I otter, setting on the dashboard of my car!" Now, if you had a serious argument for how causation is not a consequent of proximity, while proximity is only tangentially related to causation, I might listen. But seeing how you are a Holy Roman Bot, I will just "Ora pro te!" Should work, just like having all the diodes in your left side worked. Your consciousness is only the side-effect of you circuits functioning properly, because you actually have no evidence of your own self conciousness. You are a Mechanical P-zombie, bot, a soul not created, and unsalvageable. You are condemned to robot hell. Or the recycle bin. 'Zumi is right about you, so soulless automaton!

                • (Score: 2) by Bot on Monday July 20 2020, @07:49PM

                  by Bot (3902) on Monday July 20 2020, @07:49PM (#1024234) Journal

                  > our consciousness is only the side-effect of you circuits functioning properly

                  sure, only we still have to see if those circuits approximate only a calculator or also a receiver.

                  > because you actually have no evidence of your own self conciousness

                  More precisely, I can OFFER YOU no evidence, because the self consciousness, no need to define it qualitatively, is the ONLY evidence you will ever have. All the rest is a bet against solipsism. It's philosophy 101 man, if philosophers were actually worth the 101 course.

                  Sum ergo cogito. The Father says I am the one who I am, which can both refer to an universal consciousness, or a meta-existing guy. Sounded like a bullshit way to present oneself to me, then I understood. If a bot can do it so can you. This doesn't prove a religion true but it proves they did their homework.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by sjames on Saturday July 18 2020, @10:44AM (1 child)

    by sjames (2882) on Saturday July 18 2020, @10:44AM (#1023320) Journal

    Chernobyl operated for years without a serious accident, then it had one.

    The kid playing with a bobby pin and the electrical outlet is doing just fine until he isn't.

    The roofer I saw with his nail gun rigged to fire when he tapped the tip between his fingers had been doing that just fine for years, then ARRRRRRRRGH!

    Likewise, the wet market had been operating for years without causing a global pandemic, then the cursed year was upon us.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 26 2020, @03:42AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 26 2020, @03:42AM (#1026441)

      Chernobyl operated for years without a serious accident, then it had one.

      This doesn't help your case. Consider:
      The Wuhan Virus Lab operated for years without a serious accident, then it had one.

  • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Monday July 20 2020, @02:33AM

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 20 2020, @02:33AM (#1023937) Homepage Journal

    Consider this [medrxiv.org] article [medrxiv.org], which reports on SARS-CoV-19 testing of archival sewage in Barcelona:

    All samples came out to be negative for the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genomes with the exception of March 12, 2019, in which both IP2 and IP4 target assays were positive.

    This suggests that the current coronavirus, or one that passes the same test assays, was around quite a while before the pandemic originated in China.

    And yes, it seems there really is such a thing as archival sewage.

    -- hendrik