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posted by martyb on Saturday July 18 2020, @09:31PM   Printer-friendly

BBC:

US Attorney General William Barr has accused Hollywood and US tech firms of "collaborating" with the Chinese government to do business there.

Companies like Disney routinely agreed to censor films while Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and Apple were "all too willing" to work with Beijing, he said.

Such actions risked undermining the liberal world order, Mr Barr added.

His intervention is the latest criticism of China by White House and other US officials.

Tensions between the US and China have been rising over a host of issues. The US this week removed Hong Kong's preferential trade status, after China brought in a controversial new security law for the territory.

Does working with China mean freedoms are undermined elsewhere?

Also at the Hollywood Reporter. DoJ: Attorney General William P. Barr Delivers Remarks on China Policy at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Museum.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by legont on Sunday July 19 2020, @04:23AM (7 children)

    by legont (4179) on Sunday July 19 2020, @04:23AM (#1023634)

    It was actually the other way around. Corporations controlled the state in fascists regimes. Some say they collaborated, but it does not matter. We are getting over there full speed.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Sunday July 19 2020, @08:04AM (5 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 19 2020, @08:04AM (#1023659) Journal

    Corporations controlled the state in fascists regimes.

    Like what? Wasn't the case in Fascist Italy, Fascist Spain, or Nazi Germany for glaring counterexamples. Instead the state was supreme.

    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday July 19 2020, @07:02PM (4 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday July 19 2020, @07:02PM (#1023809) Journal

      None of those states could exist without corporations to build and sell them their weapons, and finance their campaign, even the commies couldn't it. They have to make deals too. No matter where you look the financiers own it all. You can't have a revolution or a dictatorship without adequate funding.

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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday July 20 2020, @01:25AM (3 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 20 2020, @01:25AM (#1023903) Journal

        None of those states could exist without corporations to build and sell them their weapons, and finance their campaign, even the commies couldn't it.

        You could say the same of workers and slaves in such societies. That didn't make the workers and slaves supreme.

        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday July 20 2020, @01:36AM (2 children)

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday July 20 2020, @01:36AM (#1023910) Journal

          Eh, doesn't really make a difference. We're just acting out our primitive animal nature, fighting over territory like dogs

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          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday July 20 2020, @01:45AM (1 child)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 20 2020, @01:45AM (#1023914) Journal

            Eh, doesn't really make a difference.

            To the contrary, you just acknowledged it does.

            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday July 20 2020, @02:13AM

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday July 20 2020, @02:13AM (#1023929) Journal

              Just your imagination

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  • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Sunday July 19 2020, @09:17PM

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Sunday July 19 2020, @09:17PM (#1023826)

    No, it really wasn't:

    State permission was required for almost any business activity, such as ending employment or expanding a factory. All wages were set by the government.

    from the wikipedia piece on Italian Fascism. [wikipedia.org]
    There is also this bit:

    The Doctrine of Fascism (1932) described the nature of Italian Fascism's totalitarianism, stating the following:

    Fascism is for the only liberty which can be a serious thing, the liberty of the state and of the individual in the state. Therefore for the fascist, everything is in the state, and no human or spiritual thing exists, or has any sort of value, outside the state. In this sense fascism is totalitarian, and the fascist state which is the synthesis and unity of every value, interprets, develops and strengthens the entire life of the people.

    — Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, The Doctrine of Fascism (1932)