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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday July 18 2020, @02:28PM   Printer-friendly
from the just-one-misplaced-comma-away-from-total-chaos dept.

Cloudflare outage takes down Discord, Shopify, Politico and others – TechCrunch:

Many major websites and services were unreachable for a period Friday afternoon due to issues at Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS service. The outage seems to have started at about 2:15 Pacific time and lasted for about 25 minutes before connections began to be restored. Google DNS may also have been affected.

Update: Cloudflare at 2:46 says "the issue has been identified and a fix is being implemented." CEO Matthew Prince explains that it all came down to a bad router in Atlanta:

We had an issue that impacted some portions of the @Cloudflare network. It appears that a router in Atlanta had an error that caused bad routes across our backbone. That resulted in misrouted traffic to PoPs that connect to our backbone. 1/2

— Matthew Prince 🌥 (@eastdakota) July 17, 2020

[...] Discord, Feedly, Politico, Shopify and League of Legends were all affected, giving an idea of the breadth of the issue. Not only were websites down but also some status pages meant to provide warnings and track outages. In at least one case, even the status page for the status page was down.

Also at:
Cloudflare outage cuts off connections to Discord, DownDetector and others
The Cloudflare Blog


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  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday July 18 2020, @03:04PM (9 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday July 18 2020, @03:04PM (#1023387) Journal

    use your ISP's DNS

    The internet is way too centralized, makes it very frail, might be by design to make it easy to turn off the whole thing

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Revek on Saturday July 18 2020, @03:11PM (4 children)

    by Revek (5022) on Saturday July 18 2020, @03:11PM (#1023391)

    Or just run your own. Not that difficult.

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    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2020, @03:33PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2020, @03:33PM (#1023395)

      I run my own. Didn't help with this issue, as many zones have their authoritative nameservers on Cloudflare's infrastructure.

      Even soylentnews.org gave a SRVFAIL response, apparently Linode uses Cloudflare too? And caching doesn't really help either if the zone expiration is set to 5 minutes:

      ;; QUESTION SECTION:
      ;soylentnews.org. IN SOA

      ;; ANSWER SECTION:
      soylentnews.org. 3600 IN SOA staff.soylentnews.org. hostmaster.staff.soylentnews.org. 2020061446 300 300 300 300

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by darkfeline on Saturday July 18 2020, @09:34PM (1 child)

      by darkfeline (1030) on Saturday July 18 2020, @09:34PM (#1023503) Homepage

      Running your own intercontinental CDN is not that difficult? Please tell me more, I'm quite intrigued.

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      • (Score: 2) by Revek on Saturday July 18 2020, @10:26PM

        by Revek (5022) on Saturday July 18 2020, @10:26PM (#1023530)

        I said dns not cdn. I know they both share two of the same letters. I just responded to the person talking about using their ISP dns.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday July 18 2020, @03:28PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 18 2020, @03:28PM (#1023393) Journal

    use your ISP's DNS

    Ummmm... how exactly is this going to solve an IP routing problem?

    So, Ok, you ran your own DNS and get a correct IP address for the host you want to reach. What if that address is reachable only by passing through a defective router?

    It appears that a router in Atlanta had an error that caused bad routes across our backbone.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Fnord666 on Saturday July 18 2020, @04:39PM (2 children)

    by Fnord666 (652) on Saturday July 18 2020, @04:39PM (#1023415) Homepage

    use your ISP's DNS

    The internet is way too centralized, makes it very frail, might be by design to make it easy to turn off the whole thing

    No thank you. They have too much interest in mucking about with results, both in what gets returned and in data mining the lookups. I'm sure there's a market for the information on what retail sites you visit, what news portals you use, what pr0n sites you frequent, etc.

    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday July 18 2020, @04:46PM (1 child)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday July 18 2020, @04:46PM (#1023416) Journal

      It's a temporary move, until we can finally make DNS obsolete, in fact the whole client/server thing has to go if you really want to avoid all the tracking and redirection issues

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      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2020, @05:41PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2020, @05:41PM (#1023430)

        agreed. DNS is old.
        however it is governable and thus subject able to laws IF it is centralized. laws can be a powerful tools, for good and bad.
        i assume it will be a uphill battle, considering the previous mentioned point AND the pervasive ignorance on how the internet works.
        the power that are/be will not easily hand over such a powerful (and profitable!) tool.
        the DoH initiative, whilst sold under the guise of freeing the user from spying by middle men DOMAIN name resolving providers, is only a half baked solution: the solution would be decentralization and giving each user/node a fixed domain corresponding to how each internet user MUST have a (variable) IP address.

        for those that "don't get it" i recommend trying out tor, which gives you a FREE albeit random "domain" and then see what sudden superpowers you gain by being uniquely identifiable in the waste and generally opaque internet (think: send it TO ME).