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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday July 19 2020, @04:02PM   Printer-friendly
from the no-good-deed-goes-unpunished? dept.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Airbnb-asks-people-to-donate-money-to-hosts-15407730.php

Airbnb's latest attempt to appease hosts and customers amid a tumultuous year was met with a searing backlash on social media.

The online vacation rental marketplace, headquartered in San Francisco, initiated a feature this week offering customers the chance to donate money and "kindness cards" to hosts.

"Today we're introducing a new way to connect with your favorite hosts. Now you can create personalized kindness cards that make it easy to send a message of appreciation or encouragement, with the option to add a contribution. We hope these cards will make hosts smile, and bring a little joy your way," a message from the company to customers read.

"Airbnb has lost its f---ing head, why would I donate to my host? I can't even afford one house." Twitter user olenskae fumed.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @02:46AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @02:46AM (#1023944)

    There is absolutely nothing legitimate about taxi cab medallion monopolies.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by FatPhil on Monday July 20 2020, @08:16AM (5 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Monday July 20 2020, @08:16AM (#1024009) Homepage
    You're confusing "legitimate" with "justifiable". It's a racket, everyone knows that, but it's the law. The law needs to be changed. It is often thought that the best way to get a law changes is by indiscriminate breaking of it, but that is very rarely actually the case, and I don't believe that Uber is such a case. Uber doesn't even want the law changed - the shackles of medallions are what makes their business seem good.
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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:00PM (4 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:00PM (#1024774) Journal

      The law needs to be changed.

      One way to change the law is to drive the businesses supporting the law out of business via the allegedly illegal competition. You don't eliminate political merchants by rewarding them. You do it by driving them into bankruptcy.

      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday July 22 2020, @09:02AM (3 children)

        by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Wednesday July 22 2020, @09:02AM (#1024888) Homepage
        Yet again you prove that you have no understanding of, or no respect for, the rule of law, and even democracy.

        Have you never stopped to consider why so many people think you're a loon?
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        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday July 22 2020, @06:11PM (2 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 22 2020, @06:11PM (#1025013) Journal
          Bribing politicians to protect your business model is not doing or rule of law. And rule of law most certainly is not whatever rules the authorities pull out of their asses.

          Have you never stopped to consider why so many people think you're a loon?

          What is there to consider? I realize already that there are people who disagree with me. And some of them are incapable of understanding that.

          I think there would a whole lot less concern over the rule of law, if Uber and Airbnb were doing stuff that was pro-Taxi cartel and pro-labor. Further, our rule of law has provided numerous constraints on democracies no matter which ones you consider. And a big, universal constraint is that one's rights don't disappear just because one is on the wrong side of a bureaucratic tussle.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday July 22 2020, @11:24PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 22 2020, @11:24PM (#1025190) Journal

            Bribing politicians to protect your business model is not doing democracy or rule of law.

            Fixed.

          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday July 24 2020, @09:29AM

            by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Friday July 24 2020, @09:29AM (#1025706) Homepage
            Mostly agree. But I think the solution to the problem of bribing politicians is better accountability, and getting the corrupt politicians removed.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @12:41AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @12:41AM (#1024807)

    You're ignoring history. They were created due to corruption of the taxi companies competing with each other. They were successful in reducing crime, blackmail, kidnappings, assignations, and reducing roaming bands of unoccupied taxis (those older companies operated like gangs). Sure the medallions were slowly corrupted and need to be fixed, but simply dropping them invites all the old problems to come back and we've already seen some of that. Uber making fake pickup requests to other companies, discriminating against which people they pick up (them creating ghost drivers and ignoring pickup requests from people they calculated were inspectors), varied rates, increased traffic, ignoring complaints, etc... Companies holding medallions are forced to meet the requirements for those medallions. If customers actually called into their cities to complain about abuses those companies would be held accountable or they lost the medallions (or you could vote someone in who would hold them accountable). Sure some of that has been corrupted, but services like Uber give you no resource. Further, if you complain too much you're the one who gets banned.

    You're looking at all of the current cons of the medallions and ignoring all of the past pros. When you throw them out, you're throwing out all the pros as well.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday July 22 2020, @06:13PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 22 2020, @06:13PM (#1025015) Journal
      Doesn't sound to me like that history is ignored. Medallions are just a continuation of that corruption where someone managed to turn it into a cartel.