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posted by martyb on Tuesday July 21 2020, @08:49PM   Printer-friendly
from the no-APU-for-you dept.

AMD Launches 12 Desktop Renoir Ryzen 4000G Series APUs: But You Can't Buy Them

Today AMD is finally lifting the lid on its long-awaited desktop Zen2 based APU family. Using the same silicon as in the Ryzen Mobile 4000 family, AMD is pumping it up into 35 W and 65 models in the same AM4 platform that is in use today. There has been strong demand from PC builders to release these chips, which were on the topics of forum conversation all the way back at CES. There's only one downside to these new processors: you can't buy them on their own. AMD states that the initial release of Ryzen 4000G hardware is for OEMs like Dell and HP only for their pre-built systems.

The new processors use the same 8-core Zen2 plus 8 compute unit Vega that we saw in Ryzen Mobile 4000 at the beginning of the year, but as with previous APU launches, the frequency and power thermals have been pushed up into more manageable desktop environments. To that end, AMD will be launching hardware in the Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5, and Ryzen 3 product lines at both 65 W and 35 W, all on the AM4 platform.

[...] Just to be clear, AMD specified OEM and not system integrators (SIs). On our call, AMD clarified that the market for its APUs is skewed very heavily towards the big mass-market prebuilt customers like HP and Dell, rather than custom home builds. The numbers quoted were around 80% of all APU sales end up in these systems, and by working with OEMs only, AMD can also help manage stock levels of the Renoir silicon coming out of the fabs between desktops and notebooks.

[...] AMD says that they are planning a consumer-grade release of APUs 'soon'. It was stated in our briefing call that there will be a launch of a future Zen2 APU for the consumer market compatible with 500-series motherboards. The company specifically did not say 400-series, but did clarify that the 4000G series announced today was for 400 and 500 series.

Also at Tom's Hardware, TechRadar, Guru3D, and Ars Technica.

See also: AMD Ryzen 4000 Renoir APUs Have Started Invading AIO PCs
AMD Ryzen 7 4700G Renoir APU With Vega 8 GPU Is Almost As Fast As Entry-Level Discrete Graphics When Overclocked
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G Renoir 8 Core CPU Benchmarks Leak Out, On Par With Ryzen 7 3800X & Core i7-10700K
AMD Ryzen 7 4700G APU Overclocked To 4.8 GHz Across All 8 Cores, DDR4-4400 & 2200 MHz FCLK Achieved Too – Blows Away The Ryzen 7 3700X


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  • (Score: 2) by Subsentient on Tuesday July 21 2020, @10:45PM (1 child)

    by Subsentient (1111) on Tuesday July 21 2020, @10:45PM (#1024766) Homepage Journal

    I'm rocking a Ryzen 3 2200G right now on my main desktop. I just wanted a basic GPU able to run a few games at low settings without lag, and a CPU beefy enough not to make compile times excruciating.

    It's a couple generations old now, and this CPU still has excellent single core performance compared to significantly more expensive Intel chips. The Vega iGPU really skullfucks the hell out of Intel's iGPU offering, too.

    When these chips become available for home builders, I might consider upgrading.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:36PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:36PM (#1024793) Journal

    It should be a good choice for NUC/SFF/SBCs.

    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asrock-implants-amd-ryzen-4000-six-core-apu-in-new-sbc [tomshardware.com]

    Intel could technically be leapfrogging AMD's iGPU performance each generation (Ice Lake vs. Picasso, Tiger Lake vs. Renoir), but they tend to have a steeper dropoff from the top SKU. For example, Ice Lake is 64 execution units at the top, dropping down to 48 EUs and 32 EUs with lower clocks. Whereas Renoir iGPU goes from 8 compute units to 7 CUs, 6 CUs, and finally 5 CUs. Also, there are no Ice Lake desktop APUs...

    AMD's rumored "Van Gogh" [videocardz.com] (Zen 2 cores + RDNA2 graphics) should also be interesting, although my guess is that it will have 4 cores max to keep a low TDP.

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