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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday July 22 2020, @02:17PM   Printer-friendly
from the seems-like-a-square-view-to-me dept.

Plato was right: Earth is made, on average, of cubes: The ancient Greek philosopher was on to something, researchers found:

Plato, the Greek philosopher who lived in the 5th century B.C.E., believed that the universe was made of five types of matter: earth, air, fire, water, and cosmos. Each was described with a particular geometry, a platonic shape. For earth, that shape was the cube.

Science has steadily moved beyond Plato's conjectures, looking instead to the atom as the building block of the universe. Yet Plato seems to have been onto something, researchers have found.

In a new paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a team from the University of Pennsylvania, Budapest University of Technology and Economics, and University of Debrecen uses math, geology, and physics to demonstrate that the average shape of rocks on Earth is a cube.

"Plato is widely recognized as the first person to develop the concept of an atom, the idea that matter is composed of some indivisible component at the smallest scale," says Douglas Jerolmack, a geophysicist in Penn's School of Arts & Sciences' Department of Earth and Environmental Science and the School of Engineering and Applied Science's Department of Mechanical Engineering and Applied Mechanics. "But that understanding was only conceptual; nothing about our modern understanding of atoms derives from what Plato told us.

"The interesting thing here is that what we find with rock, or earth, is that there is more than a conceptual lineage back to Plato. It turns out that Plato's conception about the element earth being made up of cubes is, literally, the statistical average model for real earth. And that is just mind-blowing."

Journal Reference:
Gábor Domokos, Douglas J. Jerolmack, Ferenc Kun, et al. Plato's cube and the natural geometry of fragmentation [$], Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (DOI: 10.1073/pnas.2001037117)


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday July 23 2020, @12:51AM (1 child)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday July 23 2020, @12:51AM (#1025235) Journal

    Ionization is not fission, nor is chemical reaction, but you already knew that. And, of course, if your atom has parts, and even valences, well not really a un-cuttable smallest part, then, is it?

    Point being that the Atomists got some things wrong, and even Plato. And they did not play Minecraft.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday July 23 2020, @01:36AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday July 23 2020, @01:36AM (#1025254) Journal

    Point being that the Atomists got some things wrong...

    Point taken.

    Or the fault for the confusion was in the more modern scientists sticking the "atom" label on that contraption of nucleons and electrons that makes the chemical elements, they should have waited until the quantum chromodynamics got into the picture (and even this may be too hasty)

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