Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

posted by martyb on Friday July 24 2020, @09:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the counting-is-hard-when-it-counts dept.

With No Final Say, Trump Wants To Change Who Counts For Dividing Up Congress' Seats:

President Trump released a memorandum Tuesday that calls for an unprecedented change to the constitutionally mandated count of every person living in the country — the exclusion of unauthorized immigrants from the numbers used to divide up seats in Congress among the states.

The memo instructs Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, who oversees the Commerce Department, to include in the legally required report of census results to the president "information permitting the President, to the extent practicable" to leave out the number of immigrants living in the U.S. without authorization from the apportionment count.

But the move by the president, who does not have final authority over the census, is more likely to spur legal challenges and political spectacle in the last months before this year's presidential election than a transformation of the once-a-decade head count, which has been disrupted by the coronavirus pandemic.

[...] Since the first U.S. census in 1790, both U.S. citizens and noncitizens — regardless of immigration status — have been included in the country's official population counts.

The fifth sentence of the Constitution specifies that "persons" residing in the states should be counted every 10 years to determine each state's share of seats in the House of Representatives. The 14th Amendment, which ended the counting of an enslaved person as "three fifths" of a free person, goes further to require the counting of the "whole number of persons in each state."

It is Congress — not the president — that Article 1, Section 2 of the country's founding document empowers to carry out the "actual enumeration" of the country's population in "such manner as they shall by law direct."

In Title 2 of the U.S. Code, Congress detailed its instructions for the president to report to lawmakers the tally of the "whole number of persons" living in each state for the reapportionment of House seats. In Title 13, Congress established additional key dates for the "tabulation of total population."


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @04:08PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @04:08PM (#1025820)

    What you miss is this...

    I'm really okay with whoever you guys want to vote into office. My faith is in the inherent justice of the universe - in that everybody will _ultimately_ get what they deserve.

    Sure I have an opinion, and most of the time it differs from the winning side. Never has my vote caused my side to win, so why waste the effort?

    If you guys of the voting majority opt us into corruption, oppression, tyranny, poverty, pollution or revolution, I will accompany you through it. It is more important to me that you learn from your mistakes than that I win. (And what exactly does anyone ever actually win in the final analysis, since in the long run we are all dead?)

    Moreover it may be that I am mistaken in my opinion. Usually I can argue both side. Take the "pro-choice"/"pro-life" debate. My opinion is like the Biblical endorsement of both sides when it gives the hint "Choose life". But why should others be forced to suffer the consequences of my deficient understanding?

    It is a mistake to believe that your opinion is never mistaken. Hence the "value" of a vote is moot.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @04:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @04:25PM (#1025829)

    Time heals all wounds, it also wounds all heels.