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posted by martyb on Friday July 24 2020, @09:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the counting-is-hard-when-it-counts dept.

With No Final Say, Trump Wants To Change Who Counts For Dividing Up Congress' Seats:

President Trump released a memorandum Tuesday that calls for an unprecedented change to the constitutionally mandated count of every person living in the country — the exclusion of unauthorized immigrants from the numbers used to divide up seats in Congress among the states.

The memo instructs Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, who oversees the Commerce Department, to include in the legally required report of census results to the president "information permitting the President, to the extent practicable" to leave out the number of immigrants living in the U.S. without authorization from the apportionment count.

But the move by the president, who does not have final authority over the census, is more likely to spur legal challenges and political spectacle in the last months before this year's presidential election than a transformation of the once-a-decade head count, which has been disrupted by the coronavirus pandemic.

[...] Since the first U.S. census in 1790, both U.S. citizens and noncitizens — regardless of immigration status — have been included in the country's official population counts.

The fifth sentence of the Constitution specifies that "persons" residing in the states should be counted every 10 years to determine each state's share of seats in the House of Representatives. The 14th Amendment, which ended the counting of an enslaved person as "three fifths" of a free person, goes further to require the counting of the "whole number of persons in each state."

It is Congress — not the president — that Article 1, Section 2 of the country's founding document empowers to carry out the "actual enumeration" of the country's population in "such manner as they shall by law direct."

In Title 2 of the U.S. Code, Congress detailed its instructions for the president to report to lawmakers the tally of the "whole number of persons" living in each state for the reapportionment of House seats. In Title 13, Congress established additional key dates for the "tabulation of total population."


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 25 2020, @06:19AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 25 2020, @06:19AM (#1026097)

    I hope you are saving up your money. Short of already having a job or having one of the skills/certifications/degrees on a special list, you're going to need some 5 figures in liquid assets.

  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday July 25 2020, @07:12PM (2 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday July 25 2020, @07:12PM (#1026221) Journal

    I am, yes. It's damn near impossible but I'm doing it. And if it helps I'm a nationally-certified pharmacy tech in the US as of this February (actually I got a perfect 1600 on the qualifier...) so that should count for something...

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 26 2020, @08:30PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 26 2020, @08:30PM (#1026742)

      https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/federal-skilled-workers.html [canada.ca]

      I believe a pharmacy tech would qualify as a "B," but you'd have to check. Checking with an immigration attorney sooner rather than later would probably be helpful to set proper expectations and add direction to your actions.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday July 26 2020, @09:36PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday July 26 2020, @09:36PM (#1026783) Journal

        Sounds about right, yes...I've been on that site for a few months now trying to puzzle out what exactly will be needed. Looks like I need a police cert/identity check with fingerprints, medical exam, and a job offer, as there is no way in hell I'll have 13000 beaverbucks saved up by this time next year absent some small miracle.

        I'm moving to Buffalo (NY) in a few weeks, which makes the medical exam part easy as there's a qualified doctor in Kenmore, but will have to go to NYC for some of the other stuff. Oh well, it'll be nostalgic and a good excuse to see my mother and sister again :)

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...