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posted by Fnord666 on Friday July 24 2020, @06:07PM   Printer-friendly
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Space Force unveils logo, 'Semper Supra' motto - SpaceNews:

The U.S. Space Force revealed its new logo and motto as the service seeks to build branding and cultural identity.

The black-and-silver service logo unveiled July 22 has the delta wing as its central element that is also found in the Space Force seal and flag. There is a "Space Force" horizontally shaped logo and a USSF vertical logo.

The Space Force motto "Semper Supra" means "always above." It represents the service's role in establishing, maintaining and preserving U.S. freedom of operations in the ultimate high ground, a Space Force spokesman said.

The logo was designed by the Department of the Air Force's advertising agency GSD&M.


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  • (Score: 2, Troll) by VLM on Friday July 24 2020, @08:47PM (4 children)

    by VLM (445) on Friday July 24 2020, @08:47PM (#1025929)

    No really, we are going to put almost entirely weaspons into space

    More like commsats

    I was in the army and like space so I know more than I should about military satcom.

    Its a mess. It works, somehow, most of the time, but its a mess. The Army asks the Air Force pretty please to coordinate satcom time sometimes. Meanwhile the Navy naturally has its own systems it shares with no one, well, maybe the Marines. Naturally the Marines satcom system is separate from the Army satcom system for no apparent reason plus or minus interop plans.

    The point is there shouldn't be an interoperability plan that works most of the time at great effort.

    Most of the arguments against the space force boil down to :

    1) Orange man bad, orange man didn't arrive until the public kickoff although the project is much older than orange man bad. Did I mention orange man bad? Gimmie Karma for my virtue signalling. Only the best people hate the orange man for his skin color because only racists don't hate based on orange skin color, and by association only the best people hate some obscure corner of national defense like the space force. Eyes roll till they fall out LOL

    2) The defense department does all kinds of stupid shit like buy jet fighters for our "Navy's Army's Air Force" instead of leveraging the larger real air force like a civilized organization would. The argument seems to be the defense department has weaponized doing random stupid shit to keep the opfor off balance, because our guys are smarter and more professional than any realistic opfor so we handle our own randomness better than any opfor could handle our randomness. Its a pretty weak argument. Doing stupid things shouldn't be our secret weapon. Its time for a space force instead of rando decentralized semi-uncoordinated craziness.

    Anyone who's ever worked a "big corporate project" like I have knows the most important thing is a stable sane demarcation point between areas of expertise and authority. A national space force makes the most sense compared to any reasonable alternative.

    Now if you REALLY want to piss people off, I wrote a long format term paper proposal decades ago to spin off and merge the multiple DOD logistics systems into a "Logistics force". Both the USAR and Marine Corps having light infantry is pretty stupid, but its even crazier for them to have separate quartermaster systems. Like no shit the beans and bullets of one squad in Iraq is completely separate from another squad at the highest levels. Dumb, just dumb.

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  • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday July 24 2020, @09:02PM (2 children)

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 24 2020, @09:02PM (#1025946) Homepage Journal

    Weren't the Orange Men one of the factions keeping the troubles in Ireland going for so long?
    Bad.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Friday July 24 2020, @09:22PM

      by VLM (445) on Friday July 24 2020, @09:22PM (#1025955)

      LOL in a similar sense that the people who got their property burned down by antifa were keeping the troubles in Minnesota going for so long, LOL.

      The orangemen got a raw deal, kicked out from home to colonize a land that generally wants them genocided impoverished and removed. Their situation just kinda suxs all around for everyone on all the sides.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @11:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @11:38PM (#1026009)

      Is Donald the Orange related to William of Orange?

  • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Tuesday July 28 2020, @02:58PM

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Tuesday July 28 2020, @02:58PM (#1027643) Journal

    This is all a result of being able to print money and having no effective civilian oversight.

    This is due to the petrodollar being able to be printed infinitely.

    This will not last forever as only finite growth is allowed in the universe.

    The same forces have made it impossible for any civilians to create treaties that de-escalate, so here we sit, on the brink of war, devastation, with no end in sight.

    This was predicted by people like myself in high school in the 90s, this is why the UN criminal court, the hague, the nuremberg trials were important, but all of those lessons are forgotten and the weapons are only more dangerous.

    People from the future will ask "why did no one ask questions" and if you ask a soldier in duty right now a question, he will run out of the room screaming in fear. Noble effort to write the paper and introduce efficiency, but on the other hand, there is a class of non-soldiers, and non-americans, who have gotten quite rich off the status quo and they are sitting out all of the effects of their handiwork in very safe places.

    Why anyone would die to protect or defend such a system, as I have said elsewhere, "our incompetence confuses the enemy so much they will not know what to do, charge!" and "epstein is with your daughter tonight" are hardly morale inducing cries.