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from the lockdowns-were-supposed-to-be-just-one-part-of-defense-at-depth dept.
Economists warn of 'widespread costs' from lockdown:
Blanket restrictions on economic activity should be lifted and replaced with measures targeted specifically at groups most at risk, say economists.
[...] They argue that while the extent to which the lockdown contributed to a subsequent slowing in the rate of new infections and deaths is not easy to estimate precisely, it seems clear that it did contribute to these public health objectives.
However, they say it is "very far from clear" whether keeping such tight restrictions in place for three months until the end of June when they began to be lifted was warranted, given the large costs. They say that the costs of carrying on with such a lockdown are likely to have become significantly greater than its benefits.
Debate over the global dilemma continues.
(Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Thursday July 30 2020, @02:57PM (16 children)
His post was not spam -- it was his opinion. He isn't selling anything. I once lost my mod privileges for some time period for using spam incorrectly and that appears to be appropriate here.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday July 30 2020, @03:24PM
Taken care of.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Thursday July 30 2020, @04:33PM (11 children)
The portion I quoted wasn't exactly spam, however, the closest available mod is spam, unfortunately, due to our aging moderation system's inability to cope with posting issues that have arisen since the whole #fakenews thing really got a grip on social media in general, Soylent being no exception:
That is not presented as opinion — that's a statement presented as fact, and what's more, one serving a very specific agenda. It is manifestly untrue. Absolutely #fakenews. I explained why in some detail.
I also pointed out that good points were made — clearly I wasn't saying the whole post was spam. When he got to it, though, he was presenting a lie as if it was established fact. That deserves moderation, IMO.
TMB took unbrage at my temerity in showing why a #fakenews mod is needed, and rage-banned me at the slightest excuse, invalid though it was; so be it. Hardly the end of the world. It doesn't make me wrong, either. It simply demonstrates his willingness to abuse his position here.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Eschew Obfuscation.
(Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Thursday July 30 2020, @06:26PM (4 children)
That's his opinion. He's entitled to it like you to yours, but unless it is designed to induce you to engage in a financial transaction that would benefit him, it's just an opinion and cannot be spam.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 30 2020, @08:34PM (2 children)
Unless he is lying, and by his lying trying to get us all kilt!
(Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Thursday July 30 2020, @11:49PM (1 child)
Yeah -- I'm sad that's not the definition of spam sometimes -- if it was Rachel Maddow would be locked up for life for trying to spark a nuclear war, but ultimately, unless the post is along the lines of selling pills to grow dick or whatever, it is not spam.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday July 31 2020, @03:42AM
Fuck, dude, we could never interview a politician if we used that standard. Like, ever.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by dry on Monday August 03 2020, @03:12AM
Spam is usually defined as unsolicited messages. Here, while selling stuff is obviously spam, I'd also consider APK repeatedly posting the same shit to also be spam.
(Score: 5, Troll) by martyb on Friday July 31 2020, @02:03AM (3 children)
At the bottom of every comments page is a "Moderator Help" button which links to https://soylentnews.org/faq.pl?op=moderation [soylentnews.org]. At the top of the page is a section labelled "contents", the 7th item of which links directly to https://soylentnews.org/faq.pl?op=moderation#spam [soylentnews.org] which I quote here verbatim and in its entirety:
Based on the foregoing, I find that comment https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38735&page=1&cid=1028583#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] had not met the criteria for a Spam moderation. Therefore, a moderation ban was appropriate.
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 3, Troll) by aristarchus on Friday July 31 2020, @05:35AM
Would it be a faux pas to spam mod the moderator help on the spam mod? Interesting recursive features, in accordance with the best Unix and Linux traditions.
(Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:50AM (1 child)
That is so awesome! I've never seen a +5 Troll (or forgot if I did)!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:37PM
One Troll mod and 5 Underrated. I'm guessing some admins colluded to engineer that score.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 31 2020, @04:12AM (1 child)
You were better than this. Stop weaseling. The rules were clear, you broke them, now take your punishment.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday July 31 2020, @11:50AM
He's wanting us to include a downmod that has nothing at all to do with differentiating signal from noise, which is the entire purpose of having downmods. It's not gonna happen but I expect him to keep loudly feeling oppressed about it for a while.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 30 2020, @08:32PM (2 children)
Tell that to Herman Cain! VLM's posts are not spam, VLM is spam! He's selling racist bullshit! And Hemocyanin is buying!
(Score: 2, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Thursday July 30 2020, @11:54PM (1 child)
Yeah -- I'm a nazi, also Jewish but whatever, and racist, and fragile, and a troll and flamebaiter. You might as well call me a chocolate slug or a marshmallow. I used to care but I've realized that the words you use have no weight and don't mean what normal people think they do. Your knife is dull from over use and just doesn't stab people like you're used to any more.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 31 2020, @12:21AM
Fricking Nazi! Sorry you have become so cynical and jaded as not to be able to believe in the superiority of the white race any more. Must suck to be you.