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from the lockdowns-were-supposed-to-be-just-one-part-of-defense-at-depth dept.
Economists warn of 'widespread costs' from lockdown:
Blanket restrictions on economic activity should be lifted and replaced with measures targeted specifically at groups most at risk, say economists.
[...] They argue that while the extent to which the lockdown contributed to a subsequent slowing in the rate of new infections and deaths is not easy to estimate precisely, it seems clear that it did contribute to these public health objectives.
However, they say it is "very far from clear" whether keeping such tight restrictions in place for three months until the end of June when they began to be lifted was warranted, given the large costs. They say that the costs of carrying on with such a lockdown are likely to have become significantly greater than its benefits.
Debate over the global dilemma continues.
(Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Thursday July 30 2020, @04:17PM (14 children)
From you, to me, today:
Well, the mod ban... yeah, not unexpected, considering your remarks in IRC yesterday. The bit about wanting one? No. You were just typing for your own entertainment there. That ban is a solid confirmation of your authoritarian leanings. You could just have easily reversed the mod, or modded the other way yourself... yet you chose the nuclear option. It is also reemphasizes your recurring failure to fairly consider suggestions for improvement to the site beyond your own personal viewpoint.
When you tell me to "fuck right off", you're taking the position that the site is yours and all decisions relating to it are yours. Neither of which is the case — consequently I feel perfectly free to ignore your advice in the matter. As for the (continuing) personal remarks, I decline to sink that low. However, I did notice you've been calling quite a few other people names today as well. That's interesting.
As for the mod itself, when you don't have appropriate categories for moderation, and yet moderation is called for, those categories are going to diffuse or mutate, no matter what your personal opinions about "noise" tell you. This certainly won't be the last time someone posts outright disinformation and gets legitimately hit for it. So you can look forward to imposing more repressive bans on legit moderations in the future as long as the moderation options here remain so severely limited.
Cheers. :)
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Things aren't always #000000 and #FFFFFF.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 30 2020, @04:36PM (3 children)
Thanks for quickly modbanning fyngryz for his blatant abuse!
(Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Thursday July 30 2020, @06:31PM (2 children)
As an ex-modBanPrisoner, I suggest you don't get the modBanPrison tattoos. They're lame.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday July 31 2020, @03:45AM (1 child)
Shit, now you tell me?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 31 2020, @04:26AM
In your case they actually make you look better. You get a few bonus points for banning yerself!
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday July 30 2020, @05:08PM (2 children)
You knew perfectly well that it wasn't anything close to fitting the Spam mod guidelines and you knew equally well what the penalty was for abusing that particular moderation. So, yes, you wanted one or you would have abused your moderation privs in a way not guaranteed to get you mod banned.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday July 31 2020, @05:46AM (1 child)
[Channelling Zorg:
Fifth Element [imdb.com]]
I gotta say, I admire a self-conscious spam mod aimed at rampant stupidity, even if it does violate the rules. For someone to do so takes guts, principles, and a cursor over a button on a website. Of course they know the consequences, and accept them, and wear them like a badge of honor. I once spam-modded TMB, for being such an asshole. Yes, I had to sit out a while. But of course it was worth it, since it resulted in him doing the same, just like the Feds in Portland, and he had to mod-ban himself.
So be of good cheer, fyngyrz, your handle has been entered into the rolls of Valhalla! We await your return, but remember, you can still post the allegedly desired refutations of the Nazis on this site, even if you cannot down-mod them. And we will mod you up.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday July 31 2020, @11:56AM
It did not. You earned the arinoyance for both incidents and I wouldn't dream of short changing you on credit where it's due.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday July 30 2020, @08:46PM (6 children)
True, that. TMB is rather testy, quick with the f-bombs and death wishes, as are Runaway1966 and VLM. Must be that time of the election cycle. But this is the inevitable end point of a dead-end political movement, from the Lost Cause through the John Birchers, and from the Tea Party to QAnon and Boogerloos.
Yeats, gentlepersons! [poets.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 30 2020, @10:08PM (2 children)
So you're predicting Trump will get a second term?
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday July 30 2020, @10:19PM
More than likely Cthulhu will emerge from the shattered husk of the Donald. We are seeing the signs of neurological damage from the birth of the Great Old One, trouble with ramps, two-handed water sipping. And everyone is making fun of the Demon Sperm retweet? It was a Call for help by the hopelessly doomed! But, he made a deal. Seemed like a good deal, at the time. Now it's Angel Heart [imdb.com] time.
And this is why there is this sudden increase in right-wing madness among his followers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 31 2020, @12:23AM
The Title of the Poem is "The Second Coming", not "The Second Term", although both could be equally apocalyptic.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday July 31 2020, @03:47AM (2 children)
The word "fuck" and its myriad conjugations are but punctuation to me most of the time. I thought you would have figured that out by now.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday July 31 2020, @04:48AM (1 child)
Do not mistake critique for a lack of comprehension, oh community-college drop-out Buzztard! It is a question of style, and rhetorical effectiveness.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday July 31 2020, @11:57AM
Yeah, style doth ooze from my every orifice.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.