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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday August 04 2020, @09:02PM   Printer-friendly
from the who-is-at-the-most-risk? dept.

Who Gets a Vaccine First? U.S. Considers Race in Coronavirus Plans:

Federal health officials are already trying to decide who will get the first doses of any effective coronavirus vaccines, which could be on the market this winter but could require many additional months to become widely available to Americans.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and an advisory committee of outside health experts in April began working on a ranking system for what may be an extended rollout in the United States. According to a preliminary plan, any approved vaccines would be offered to vital medical and national security officials first, and then to other essential workers and those considered at high risk — the elderly instead of children, people with underlying conditions instead of the relatively healthy.

Agency officials and the advisers are also considering what has become a contentious option: putting Black and Latino people, who have disproportionately fallen victim to Covid-19, ahead of others in the population.


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Snotnose on Tuesday August 04 2020, @10:23PM (9 children)

    by Snotnose (1623) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @10:23PM (#1031451)

    Followed by the idiots that don't understand why those long term trials the FDA likes to see before saying a drug is safe is considered A Good Thing.

    I keep reading "who will get the first vaccines?". I seriously hope to be at the end of that list. I would much rather take my chances of A) getting it in the first place; and B) having it put me into the ICU; than C) take a rushed to market injection who's effectiveness is probably going to be more political than medical.

    See also, Hydroxycloroquine, or whatever the fuck the Orange one says he takes every day.

    Or Thalidomide, if you're either old enough or educated enough to know what that is.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @11:13PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @11:13PM (#1031462)

    The US has a history of biological experimentation on black citizens at home, and Latinos abroad, in Guatemala (members of both groups were allowed to suffer and die while being given fake treatments, so the disease progression to death from syphilis could be studied). With the current administration's open racism including support for white supremacist and Neo-Nazi groups, and the extent that many agencies have been taken over by Trump people, I can't help but be suspicious of their motives.

    If the current government gives this new vaccine to black and Latinos first, is it for their benefit, or is it just the last phase of testing in the expedited trials?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @11:41PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @11:41PM (#1031478)

      This was in reply to Snotnose, above, but i moved it here to point out they did plenty of experimentation on whites during that era too:

      As a 2nd gen survivor of them shooting up moms in the 40s and 50s to 'give vitamins to the babies' or whatever bullshit they gave, yeah, fuck being first past the post. I'll take my chances on dying until there are a lot of other guinea pigs living successful lives from any treatments being pushed by the government or corporations before I consider getting one myself. Mitigating risk of contamination right now is a lot safer than trying out any of the 'cures'..

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:28PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:28PM (#1031697)

        And this is the main reason why some communities are in so much trouble. the '40s and '50s was a long time ago, there's been a ton of civil rights progress made since then. If the response to everything that goes on is based upon what happened decades previous, then there's absolutely no chance of positive change.

        Sometimes, the beliefs aren't even based in reality. Hospitals do not murder black patients in order to steal body parts. The oak trees were cut down decades ago due to Dutch Elm Disease, not because the police needed a better view into people's homes. And white supremacy is something that klansmen and neo-Nazis support, not typical white people. The concept of "white" that they use to justify that is based on a definition of white that's only a few decades old, but we're supposed to believe that the same concept of race was being used centuries before it was even developed?

        • (Score: 2) by toddestan on Thursday August 06 2020, @11:22PM

          by toddestan (4982) on Thursday August 06 2020, @11:22PM (#1032586)

          The oak trees were cut down decades ago due to Dutch Elm Disease, not because the police needed a better view into people's homes.

          Dutch elm disease affected elm trees. Oak trees are totally unaffected. If they said they needed to cut down the oak trees because of Dutch elm disease, then they wanted to cut down those oak trees for some other reason and blamed Dutch elm disease as a convenient (if unrelated) excuse.

          Beware of those that'll likewise use COVID as a convenient excuse to do things that they wouldn't otherwise get away with.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @12:49AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @12:49AM (#1031507)

      The word you are looking for is Nazi.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:03AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:03AM (#1031581)

        No, NAZI just means someone I disagree with.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:29AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:29AM (#1031592)

          Not the ones who are good people though. There's good and bad in everyone. And we learn to live, we learn to give each other what we need to survive together alive.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @04:17AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @04:17AM (#1032142)

          You can tell a Nazi by the way they get so upset about anyone being called a Nazi. And here I thought that people who wave flags tend to identify with said flags.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @04:07PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @04:07PM (#1031804)

    Don't forget Gulf War Syndrome. It was actually a placebo designed to filter out whining malingers. Step up for the vaccine folks (names will be taken).