MMR Vaccine Could Protect Against the Worst Symptoms of COVID-19 :
"Administering the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine could serve as a preventive measure to dampen septic inflammation associated with COVID-19 infection
[...] The protection was mediated by long-lived myeloid-derived suppressor cells (MDSCs) previously reported inhibiting septic inflammation and mortality in several experimental models.
[...] The milder symptoms seen in the 955 sailors on the U.S.S Roosevelt who tested positive for COVID-19 (only one hospitalization) may have been a consequence of the fact that the MMR vaccinations are given to all U.S. Navy recruits. In addition, epidemiological data suggest a correlation between people in geographical locations who routinely receive the MMR vaccine and reduced COVID-19 death rates. COVID-19 has not had a big impact on children, and the researchers hypothesize that one reason children are protected against viral infections that induce sepsis is their more recent and more frequent exposures to live attenuated vaccines that can also induce the trained suppressive MDSCs that limit inflammation and sepsis."
(Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday August 05 2020, @05:56PM (20 children)
Fine, now... there's supposed to be a big population of non-vaccinated children out there, how does their COVID response compare to their vaccinated counterparts?
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(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:05PM
Put all the variables in a big matrix, invert the matrix = get the answers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:06PM (16 children)
Yep, came to say something similar, anti-vaxxers have had a field day with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine [wikipedia.org] As the statistics become more clear, perhaps it will be possible to look for more correlation between severity of covid and when/if MMR vaccination was done.
When a vaccine for CV-19 arrives, it will be interesting to see how many of the anti-vax parents take it (although denying their kids the normal childhood vaccines).
More reading -- https://www.sciencealert.com/anti-vaxxers-seize-virus-moment-to-spread-fake-news [sciencealert.com]
(Score: 2) by Kilo110 on Wednesday August 05 2020, @07:24PM (15 children)
they probably won't take it. I read somewhere a month ago that a survey said something like 30% of people won't take a covid vaccine even if offered free.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @07:56PM (4 children)
I would not take version 1.0 but I would take version 3.0. I want all the kinks to be worked out before I take it.
I would't mind taking a measles vaccine though, it's been around long enough for its safety to have been well established.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @08:05PM (1 child)
Why do you want to become autistic?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @09:31PM
Because you get pizza on Tuesdays.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @08:59PM (1 child)
In the US, version 1.0 is going to be given to minorities:
https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-nyt-covid-19-vaccine-race-20200709-37nkwjzk6reypp6d3alkazy34u-story.html [baltimoresun.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @11:38PM
They always test on animals before moving on to Phase 2 trials on humans.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Wednesday August 05 2020, @08:17PM (8 children)
Yeah, I hear that stuff gives you COVID. No wait, autism. No wait, 5G.
Actually, I'd *really* like to see the demographic/geographical breakdown of that number.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday August 05 2020, @08:23PM (7 children)
Can I give my phone a vaccine and get 5G? Where do I sign up?
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(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @10:36PM (1 child)
5G?
If you can get me a 4G vaccine for my phone I'd be happy...hell, I'd even be happy with one which would give me a stable 3G connection...
I'm not, by nature, anti vaccination, *but* there's something so inherently fscking sketchy about this whole Covid debacle, and when smarmy greasy little cnuts like Gates are involved in peddling vaccines, I'll be buggered if I'll be partaking of it..
(For the record, caught the bug early March from someone who'd caught it from someone who'd caught it in Italy and brought it back here...)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @11:49PM
> (For the record, caught the bug early March from someone who'd caught it from someone who'd caught it in Italy and brought it back here...)
Please tell us more. What, if any, symptoms, side effects, timing, etc.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @11:02PM (4 children)
Wait wait ... wouldn't you want to vaccinate your phone AGAINST 5G so that you won't get COVID?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @11:04PM
Come to think of it doing this might give your phone autism ...
(Score: 2) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Wednesday August 05 2020, @11:53PM
No, it's not the way it works. You vaccinate YOURSELF against 5G, not your phone. You DO want a 5G infected phone so that the COVID-19 virus ignores you and heads straight for your phone instead.
It's NOT a conspiracy... it's a plot.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 06 2020, @01:09AM (1 child)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @02:20AM
You would get COVID.
The logic goes like this
5G causes COVID.
Vaccinations cause autism.
If you vaccinate your phone against 5G the phone won't get 5G but it might get autism. But at least you won't get COVID from your phone's 5G and you won't be the one to get autism because it's your phone that's being vaccinated.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @09:03PM
Personally, it would depend on the exact vaccine you are talking about. There are different benefits and drawbacks to all of them. But then again, I've actually read the study results, their ingredients, mechanism of action, and more.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Bot on Wednesday August 05 2020, @09:30PM (1 child)
One nurse in a city 50 miles from here faked the vaccination procedure for over 500 children, went to national news. Nobody cared to publish stats about the difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed in terms of health in the intervening months. In fact, she was found out not because the lil guys fell more ill or harder, but because the colleagues noticed those kids didn't cry after getting the vaccine.
So, I don't think that many comparative stats will get out.
Another data point, SIDS (unexplained death for children) decline during lockdown. Some antivaxxers say: SIDS went down, vaccinations went down, interesting correlation ain't it?
Local debunking sites answer: your data is anecdotal, plus there is a study in 2018 that says that SIDS and vax are uncorrelated. So, basically an ad hominem and an argument ab auctoritate. Uhmmm, debunking by citing stats who say SIDS did not in fact go down are missing, so they didn't. https://www.oltre.tv/sids-e-vaccinazioni-grafici-lockdown-genitori/ [oltre.tv]
So, I don't think that anybody cares about SIDS either.
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(Score: 4, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday August 05 2020, @09:54PM
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