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posted by Fnord666 on Friday August 07 2020, @09:31PM   Printer-friendly
from the data-entry-personnel-needed dept.

California virus-fighting efforts hampered by data delays:

California has stopped removing or adding to a list of counties facing more restrictions on businesses and schools as it tries to resolve a technical problem with the state's coronavirus testing database, health officials said Wednesday.

The state has recorded a highest-in-the-nation 525,000 positive tests. But California health officials say the true number is even higher. They don't know how much so until they can add backlogged testing data and fix the problem with the California Reportable Disease Information Exchange, also known as CalREDIE.

The incomplete data in the nation's most populous state has hampered public health officials' ability to follow up with those who test positive and contact people who have been around them to limit the spread.

"Back in February and March when we didn't have enough testing, I would say we felt blind," said Dr. Sara Cody, Santa Clara County's public health director. "I would say now we're back to feeling blind. We don't know how the epidemic is trending."


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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Bot on Friday August 07 2020, @10:11PM (8 children)

    by Bot (3902) on Friday August 07 2020, @10:11PM (#1033199) Journal

    >"... We don't know how the epidemic is trending."

    I thought you could trace epidemics by those who fall ill.

    Do you trace pneumonia deaths and patients or not? Then you can trace covid.

    But, I know, people say: covid is different, it is more contagious/resistant/deadly/whatever

    OK then expect a peak of actual patients. Here, the people from the south working in Lombardy (where covid raged in a nasty way, according to stats) were able to get back home in the south because the politicians mistakenly announced the lockdown one day in advance. (given the kind of mistakes made by putting covid patients in nursing homes, I attribute the error to malice, anyway an italian link is https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2020/03/08/coronavirus-la-fuga-di-notizie-sul-decreto-cnn-bozza-ricevuta-dallufficio-stampa-della-regione-lombardia-che-smentisce-falso/5729557/). [ilfattoquotidiano.it] That happen in march and as of now no export of nasty covidity ensued. So maybe those cali hipsters will be lucky too.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Friday August 07 2020, @10:24PM (5 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 07 2020, @10:24PM (#1033210) Journal

    I thought you could trace epidemics by those who fall ill.

    3-7 days after exposure for those who show symptoms. For those who don't, tough luck.

    Do you trace pneumonia deaths and patients or not?

    Two to four weeks after exposure to death is typical.

    In other words, those statistics tell you what covid was doing days to weeks ago.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @10:28PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @10:28PM (#1033214)

      Since you didn't spell it out, people can be asymptomatic carriers or not develop serious enough symptoms to go to the hospital so "fall ill" won't catch the majority of COVID spreaders.

      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday August 07 2020, @10:38PM (3 children)

        by Bot (3902) on Friday August 07 2020, @10:38PM (#1033225) Journal

        OK to spell it out myself, what if hypothetically speaking nothing happens "days to weeks" from now like it happen in the south of Italy?

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        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday August 08 2020, @12:19AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 08 2020, @12:19AM (#1033259) Journal

          what if hypothetically speaking nothing happens "days to weeks" from now like it happen in the south of Italy?

          Then everything is fine.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 08 2020, @02:56AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 08 2020, @02:56AM (#1033295)

          You got lucky and there were no significant number of infected people around.

          The fuck is wrong with you?

          • (Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday August 09 2020, @09:16PM

            by Bot (3902) on Sunday August 09 2020, @09:16PM (#1034017) Journal

            You are not aware of the details, allow me.
            In Lombardy, a wild deadly covid appears.
            The government/governor/whatever decides to lock down the place BUT FIRST they leak the news.
            Therefore all southerners escape, filling out trains cars and buses.
            There is simply no way they were all covid clean, so they did take the lombardy strain south.
            Apparently covid absorbs the culture of the place because from a stakanovist killer it became a sloth in a matter of one day.

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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by JoeMerchant on Saturday August 08 2020, @02:02AM (1 child)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday August 08 2020, @02:02AM (#1033285)

    I thought you could trace epidemics by those who fall ill.

    When you're Chief Medical Officer on a ship with 40 million crew, you depend on your data gatherers to provide you with the big picture. TFA says the data gatherers are in over their heads, not keeping up, so leadership is basically flying blind - like they used to in the WWI trenches, you remember how well that went?

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    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday August 09 2020, @09:29PM

      by Bot (3902) on Sunday August 09 2020, @09:29PM (#1034022) Journal

      WWI was an intentional mass suicide of armies on both sides for little territorial gains (does that remind you of another WW?). The actual leadership wasn't blind, all the others were.

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