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posted by martyb on Friday August 07 2020, @01:45PM   Printer-friendly
from the Bytedance-bit-flipped dept.

From The Verge:

President Trump has signed a new executive order which will block all transactions with Bytedance, TikTok's parent corporation, in an effort to "address the national emergency with respect to the information and communication technology supply chain."

The move comes after months of escalating tensions, which saw Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and others at the White House warn that TikTok presented a national security threat because of its Chinese ownership. Microsoft is currently in talks to acquire portions of the app, aimed to be complete by September 15th.

A parallel order banned transactions with WeChat, a popular texting app in China that maintains a small user base in the US.

[...] The executive branch has the power to levy sanctions against individuals and corporations by placing them on the "entity list," as the US did against Huawei and ZTE last year. But such sanctions are typically put in place by the Commerce Department rather than the White House, and subject to a specific rule-making procedure that seems to have been short-circuited by the surprise executive order.

See also: Tencent stock plummets after Trump announces plan to ban WeChat in the US

Previously:
(2020-08-01) President Trump Threatens TikTok Ban, Microsoft Considers Buying TikTok's U.S. Operations[Updated 2]
(2020-07-07) Reddit and LinkedIn Stop Copying iPhone Clipboard Contents
(2020-06-30) India Bans TikTok, WeChat, and Other Chinese-Owned Apps
(2020-06-28) TikTok and 53 Other iOS Apps Still Snoop Your Sensitive Clipboard Data
(2019-12-27) Investigation Claims United Arab Emirates Uses The ToTok App To Spy
(2019-10-26) Lawmakers Ask US Intelligence to Assess If TikTok is a Security Threat


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by ikanreed on Friday August 07 2020, @03:29PM (8 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 07 2020, @03:29PM (#1032940) Journal

    Yes, I think I'm pretty damn well aware of that.

    It's hard to separate trump as a phenomenon from the increasingly widespread distrust of institutions in America. Which itself is an artifact of having two right wing parties that hold no accountability to regular people(among many other problems) except on token issues. It's pretty easy to understand people sitting in that situation looking at a dipshit outsider who says stupid things against the entitled inheritor of a dynasty and them picking the former.

    But, be that as it may, it's pretty stupid to think someone who was behind by 3 fucking million votes represents any kind of meaningful democratic outcome. That's outright no-brain level thinking. Come on man. Whatever validity you assign to excuses people hand out for the electoral college, you cannot be so fucking stupid as to think that that represents any kind of democratic mandate. You can't be that goddamn stupid.

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  • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @03:42PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @03:42PM (#1032949)

    Because Clinton. The Democratic party should be disbanded/barred/deported back to Russia.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @06:08PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @06:08PM (#1033050)

      Ooh yay! More projection from the resident troll brigade.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @04:22PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @04:22PM (#1032976)

    If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around, the MSM will completely ignore it or call it old news. Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube will ban discussion of it. Nothing will dissuade them from hatred of all truth.

  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by PaperNoodle on Friday August 07 2020, @04:55PM (4 children)

    by PaperNoodle (10908) on Friday August 07 2020, @04:55PM (#1032987)

    >behind by 3 fucking million votes represents any kind of meaningful democratic outcome.

    There were 50 independent elections. Trump won a plurality. That is some kind of meaningful democratic outcome. For those concerned about it, consider that it might be better to think of the Electoral College as affirmative action for a minority and smaller States. It's not about equality* but equity. Smaller States should have their interests taken up in the executive to ensure proper representation.

    Those structures are designed to protect against the short comings of democracy. Just like a mob, democracy can do bad things.

    * a single vote in California has the same impact in California elections as a single vote in Wyoming in Wyoming elections so there is still equality in that regards. I think there is confusion over Presidential elections being a single election. No, it's 50 independent elections. Californians do not vote in Wyoming elections and do not have less weight per vote.

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by ikanreed on Friday August 07 2020, @08:13PM (3 children)

      by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 07 2020, @08:13PM (#1033129) Journal

      Pointless legalism, the GP was trying to claim that trump had some sort of inherent legitimacy derived from "the people". Whatever fucking reasons you might think the electoral college is a good idea(it isn't, you're wrong, but I'm not really interested in debate on the subject), it definitely doesn't represent "the people". It represents some arcane vision of independent states in a grim, outdated facade of feudal councils.

      • (Score: 0, Redundant) by PaperNoodle on Friday August 07 2020, @09:08PM (2 children)

        by PaperNoodle (10908) on Friday August 07 2020, @09:08PM (#1033162)

        > that trump had some sort of inherent legitimacy derived from "the people".

        But he does. He won an election. Elections bestow legitimacy from the people to those elected.

        >definitely doesn't represent "the people"

        But it does. Through elections the people are represented. US elections and Federal government recognize plurality as much as majority.

        > Whatever fucking reasons you might

        Well whatever fucking your opinion to you buddy. I didn't know I was talking to the Holier-Than-Thou-Art-Never-Wrong. Sheesh.

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        • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Friday August 07 2020, @09:41PM (1 child)

          by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 07 2020, @09:41PM (#1033179) Journal

          Well whatever fucking your opinion to you buddy. I didn't know I was talking to the Holier-Than-Thou-Art-Never-Wrong. Sheesh.

          Honestly, I have no problem treating every person who is an active enemy of democracy like their worse than me and they're wrong about everything. You could stop having god awful stupid opinions much more easily than I could lie to you and pretend I respect you in spite of them.

          • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by PaperNoodle on Friday August 07 2020, @10:07PM

            by PaperNoodle (10908) on Friday August 07 2020, @10:07PM (#1033196)

            You're just an asshole. Dress it up as self righteous indignation all you want but a pig in lipstick still mucks around in shit.

            t('.'t)

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