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posted by martyb on Wednesday August 12 2020, @07:06PM   Printer-friendly
from the Please-insert-disk-7-of-42 dept.

Pen Test Partners: Boeing 747s receive critical software updates over 3.5" floppy disks:

The eye-catching factoid emerged during a DEF CON video interview of PTP's [Pen Test Partners] Alex Lomas, where the man himself gave a walkthrough of a 747-400, its avionics bay and the flight deck.

Although airliners are not normally available to curious infosec researchers, a certain UK-based Big Airline's decision to scrap its B747 fleet gave Pen Test Partners a unique opportunity to get aboard one and have a poke about before the scrap merchants set about their grim task.

"Aircraft themselves are really expensive beasts, you know," said Lomas as he filmed inside the big Boeing. "Even if you had all the will in the world, airlines and manufacturers won't just let you pentest an aircraft because [they] don't know what state you're going to leave it in."

While giving a tour of the aircraft on video (full embed below), Lomas pointed out the navigation database loader. To readers of a certain vintage it'll look very familiar indeed.

"This database has to be updated every 28 days, so you can see how much of a chore this has to be for an engineer to visit," Lomas said, pointing out the floppy drive – which in normal operations is tucked away behind a locked panel.

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[...] The key question everyone wants to know the answer to, though, is whether you can hack an airliner from the cheap seats, using the in-flight entertainment (IFE) as an attack vector. Lomas observed: "Where we've gone deliberately looking, we've not found, at this point, any two-way communication between passenger domain systems like the IFE and the control domain. There is the DMZ of the information services domain that sits between the two; to jump between two layers of segregation would be tricky in my view."


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 13 2020, @07:16PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 13 2020, @07:16PM (#1036270)

    Except that the fly-ability of that 4-1 engined plane turned out to be pretty bad. In the 80’s there was a meta-study that concluded the survival of multi-engined aircraft after an outage was lower than expected. Enough that the increased chance of failure (more engines=more chances for trouble) wiped out any benefit. Add-one situations (1 engine out, plus bad CG loading) were really terrible as the margins are so small. Twin engined airliners turned out to be a sweet spot for everything, and when engines reached capabilities of 1 million hours on-wing, you’re a hell of a lot safer in a modern ETOPS ac.