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TikTok plans to sue Trump administration over US ban
TikTok plans to sue the Trump administration over its executive order banning transactions between U.S. companies and the popular video-sharing app as well as its Chinese parent company, ByteDance.
"Even though we strongly disagree with the Administration's concerns, for nearly a year we have sought to engage in good faith to provide a constructive solution," a TikTok spokesperson told The Hill. "What we encountered instead was a lack of due process as the Administration paid no attention to facts and tried to insert itself into negotiations between private businesses," the spokesperson continued. "To ensure that the rule of law is not discarded and that our company and users are treated fairly, we have no choice but to challenge the Executive Order through the judicial system," the spokesperson added.
Also at NYT and Business Insider.
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 23 2020, @03:01PM (24 children)
Why doesn't Facebook and various U.S. companies sue the Jinping administration over ban?
What's annoying is that Trump is claiming that the reason he is banning TikTok is that he is afraid China is spying on us. Spying on what? A bunch of random people dancing, singing, and partying? There is literally nothing interesting to really spy on and if you are really using TikTok for anything secret you are an idiot and deserve to be spied on.
He should just say it. We are banning TikTok because China bans our platforms and so we are simply retaliating. That would at least make a lot more sense and get a lot more sympathy.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Sunday August 23 2020, @03:17PM (2 children)
It's just the administration making up a pressing issue of one kind or another to keep the media spinning around it, instead of addressing the real issues of society. When it's not Tiktok, it's the wall, muslim immigrants or defunding the WHO.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday August 23 2020, @05:11PM (1 child)
What should we expect when we hand the world over to psychopaths? And these people really are. They define the word. They live a life of hyper-privileged anarchy. There is nothing to stop them.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday August 24 2020, @12:56AM
Probably we don't know yet, that's what we keep trying to learn. (large grin)
Not that it will help us a lot, it seems that we have memory problems too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Insightful) by TheRaven on Sunday August 23 2020, @04:07PM (8 children)
The TikTok app (in common with a load of other surveillance capitalism apps) installs with a quite egregious set of permissions. Trump latched onto the concerns as an excuse to ban a platform that gave a voice to people critical of him, but the original concern was quite legitimate: the app is entirely capable of exfiltrating a lot of user data and can easily target specific individuals (after all, they give it a load of personal information directly).
sudo mod me up
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 23 2020, @04:22PM (6 children)
I don't see how TikTok is any different than Facebook. Why aren't we banning Facebook?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 23 2020, @04:38PM
Duuuh... Because Facebook is American and will serve US intelligence requests?
(Score: 5, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 23 2020, @07:24PM (4 children)
The better question is: Why are we using Facebook?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2020, @05:03AM (3 children)
No that's not a better question. It is a different question but wholly offtangent to the topic at hand.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 24 2020, @05:21AM (2 children)
Alright, I'll connect the dots. The bestest, and most relevant question in this case, is: "Why do we insist on being abused by social media?" The basic concept had little appeal to me in it's earliest days. As time goes by, the concept grows more and more abhorrent. But, all the world around me seems to flock to those sites, demanding that they be abused.
Burn 'em all to the ground. TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, and all the rest. I won't miss them at all.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 25 2020, @09:55PM (1 child)
And then nobody will be around to protect your rights when they come for something you actually *do* actually care about.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday August 25 2020, @10:27PM
*cough*
Like, Facebook is going to come running to defend my rights? Didn't those assholes just delete a couple million accounts of people who were protesting the monarchy in Taiwan?
And, wasn't Google working on censoring the internet for the Chinese government?
And, TikTok - what have they done to protect my rights?
Tell you waht - I'll just hand the microphone back to you, and you can tell us all about how big tech social media companies are protecting my rights.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 23 2020, @05:36PM
Wheb has Trump ever considered us? He's concerned about him getting re-elected.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 23 2020, @04:08PM
Zoom has ties to China, invades privacy, was caught routing data through China, and is used for less trivial things than TikTok. NASA, SpaceX, Google, Bank of America, the German Foreign Ministry, the US Senate, Taiwan's government, and anyone who doesn't want China eavesdropping have all banned Zoom. Why doesn't the administration take action against them?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 23 2020, @04:10PM (4 children)
Trump is mad at TikTok because those K-pop groups sabotaged his stupid Oklahoma rally and embarrassed him among his own constituents. His self image is the primary thing he cares about. That is why the little bitch impeached orange man child needed to create an account on loser reject service Triller in retaliation, as if that will change anything.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 23 2020, @05:40PM
It's fine. The kpop stans will continue to infest the cancerous playground known as Twatter.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Sunday August 23 2020, @09:37PM (2 children)
There is something fun with TikTok that you can verify yourself. Download TikTok and download Twitter, make some burner accounts and let them be tied together (TikTok wants permission for Twitter). Then go and follow some extreme right-wing sources that might criticize China like Scott Adams (Dilbert cartoonist), Michael Malice, Lou Dobbs, etc. Wait for anyone you followed on twitter to make an anti-China comment and then test to see whether or not you are still following them. Scott Adams has had people complain to him for months now that they will randomly get unfollowed until he finally realized the TikTok connection when he attacks China over fentanyl. I tried it for myself with Adams and saw it happen, was very interesting.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2020, @04:38PM (1 child)
Are you saying that your tiktok app unfollow people in your twitter app?
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Monday August 24 2020, @06:22PM
Yes.
https://help.twitter.com/en/managing-your-account/connect-or-revoke-access-to-third-party-apps [twitter.com]
https://thetrichordist.com/2019/11/03/as-national-security-concerns-grow-twitter-gives-tiktok-control-of-your-twitter-account/ [thetrichordist.com]
Now I don't know why people would allow their apps to connect, or why anyone has apps on their phone in the first place, but mei ban fa.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Touché) by Opportunist on Sunday August 23 2020, @04:32PM (1 child)
He's banning TikTok in an attempt to appease Twitter so the Twit can Tweet anything he wants again.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 23 2020, @05:03PM
Most of the comments here seem silly. But, your silly is believable! I can see a little behind-the-scenes quid pro quo going on, so that Orange in Chief can continue to shitpost on Twitter.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Sunday August 23 2020, @06:26PM
He's going after Tik-Tok because of the Tulsa Rally.
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(Score: 5, Interesting) by RamiK on Sunday August 23 2020, @07:27PM (1 child)
Because the PRC set regulations requiring content filtering that apply equally to both American and Chinese companies and followed proper due-process before banning Facebook and friends as well as a few Chinese owned services over the years.
The POTUS office has not right to ban companies unless they're a national security threat.
And would also violate a whole bunch of trade treaties and US laws.
Besides, Microsoft followed the regulations so they got to keep their local Outlook and cloud services. Valve recently hired a Chinese company to fix up their client's messaging and was approved in China gathering over 1 million users under 2-3months. Korea and Japan have social media services operating in China...
As for what's really going on, beyond the smoke and mirrors of your local FOX news you could have found the Iran sanctions falling apart due to Trump dropping off the relevant UN bodies meaning ZTE and Huawei amd the Iranians can now trade with rest of the world: https://www.internationaltradeinsights.com/2020/08/u-s-seeks-snapback-of-u-n-sanctions-on-iran-despite-departure-from-nuclear-deal/ [internationaltradeinsights.com]
But hey, I guess TikTok is far more important, right?
compiling...
(Score: 1, Touché) by Sulla on Sunday August 23 2020, @09:49PM
I recently listened to an interview with a member of the Indian Parliament who was beside himself that we have not yet banned TikTok. I suppose the Indian government must also be furious over the Tulsa rally.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Thexalon on Sunday August 23 2020, @10:25PM
He can't say that, because it's not the reason.
TikTok is going to have a pretty strong argument that he's trying to ban TikTok because a bunch of teenagers used it to embarrass him at the Tulsa OK rally a few weeks ago. Specifically, nobody was even thinking about banning TikTok until that went down, and right after that all of a sudden it became a major national security priority.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.