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A 25-year-old resident of Reno, Nevada was infected with the pandemic coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, two times, about 48-days apart, with the second infection causing a more severe case of COVID-19 than the first and requiring hospitalization and oxygen support.
That's according to a draft study, led by researchers at the University of Nevada and posted online. The study has not been published by a scientific journal and has not been peer-reviewed. Still, it drew quick attention from researchers, who have been examining data from the first confirmed case of a SARS-CoV-2 reinfection, reported earlier this week.
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Amid the more than 24.5 million cases worldwide, it is completely expected to find some recovered patients who are not completely protected by their immune responses and are thus vulnerable to reinfection.The big question is: how common is this scenario?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Tuesday September 01 2020, @02:54PM (16 children)
True, but that doesn't mean you will not have lasting damage to the lungs or heart, no matter what age you are. You could need medical treatment for a long time, potentially for the rest of your life. But you won't have died from Covid-19 so that is OK. And with the cost of medical care in the US that also means that many will not be able to afford that treatment.
(Score: 2, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday September 01 2020, @03:24PM (8 children)
It doesn't mean that you won't be hit by a meteor either. To date there is massively insufficient evidence to say coronaids is even correlative, much less causative, to any significant, lasting conditions.
As for medical care affordability? You're better off being broke if you want to be able to afford medical care here. If the fucktards in DC think you should be able to afford treatment or insurance yourself, it's astoundingly more expensive.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2020, @03:56PM (1 child)
In the USofA, skin color is a deciding factor in healthcare affordability. If you're white and broke, you get to be your own Dr. Don't ask me what it's like to perform surgical procedures on yourself. If you're non-white and broke, you get the best healthcare other peoples' tax dollars can buy. I believe it's called 'reverse-racism'. Now there's a term you don't often hear bandied about in the media.
(Score: 4, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday September 01 2020, @04:06PM
No, it is provably not. Feel free to take your racist lies and shove them up your ass.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 5, Informative) by janrinok on Tuesday September 01 2020, @05:45PM (1 child)
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday September 02 2020, @03:18PM
See above, bro. Science requires proof and what they have are suspicions. They don't get to blame coronaids unless they can prove it was coronaids. They currently can not. It is a guess. It may be a correct, incorrect, well-founded, or wild-assed guess but it is undeniably a guess.
And, yes, I know the value of what comes out of the mayo system. Better than you, actually, since my stepmother has been one of their RNs for quite some time and I get first hand accounts whether I want them or not.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by acid andy on Tuesday September 01 2020, @06:39PM (3 children)
Insufficient for your personally acceptable level of risk. That still doesn't mean it's extremely improbable.
True but that's an event that, based on current evidence, is at least a few billion times less probable than COVID-19 causing significant lasting conditions.
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday September 02 2020, @03:18PM (2 children)
Insufficient for science. Well, maybe not climate science.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by acid andy on Wednesday September 02 2020, @04:36PM (1 child)
Nah. It's perfectly scientific to say that a greater percentage of the current world population will eventually have died from COVID-19 than have already died. It's practically a certainty that there will be further deaths and those that have already died cannot (realistically) be resurrected. It just becomes a question of trying to predict how much greater that percentage could be, which is a question of probability and recognizing what we don't yet know about the disease.
Of course another side of it is questioning the accuracy of the existing published statistics. I think you've got that side covered, so I'll leave you to it on that.
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 03 2020, @05:15PM
Yeah, if they were trying to make accurate predictions that would be a legit argument. They're not though. They're ordering numbers to be deliberately falsified and making claims even those numbers can't support. This shit is about politics and power top to bottom, the virus has never been more than an excuse.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by choose another one on Tuesday September 01 2020, @03:44PM (2 children)
Or lasting damage to the brain (sometimes the only symptom is stroke), or pancreas (hello type 1 diabetes, which has recently spiked in kids for no known reason, except a lot of those new cases are covid +ve...).
Best of all, when you get re-infected you'll be a "had a pre-existing condition" so your death won't matter. Oh and the "pre-existing condition"s usually inlcudes "being overweight", now, admittedly it's a while since I've been to USA, but going by my recollection and that definition, "pre-existing condition" actually included most of the people.
In summary - nothing to worry about if you are currently completely healthy (no asthma, no hypertension, no diabetes, no cardiovascular problems, not overweight, etc.), you are young, and you don't mind being chronically ill afterwards. Being white and female helps even more. Course you can still spread it to friends or relatives or random people at parties who may have far more chance of dying from your actions...
Also, in case anyone thinks I'm being theoretical and using the wrong numbers, I'm not - my wife was under fifty, zero pre-existing conditions, far fitter and healthier than me. Five months ago (actually nearly six) she got covid. Last year she was running half-marathons, now she struggles to run two miles and is out of breath just from walking up the stairs, and sense of taste and smell is still fubar, her sp02 is 5% down on the rest of us. That is what "no chance in hell of dying" looks like.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday September 01 2020, @04:04PM (1 child)
You mean the part where she's not dead? Yup, that's what it looks like.
There is, by the way, some amount of evidence that people in extremely good physical condition are hit much harder by it. Not proof, mind you, but enough to warrant a closer look.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2020, @04:32PM
Reduced mucosal immunity due to salivary secretory immunoglobulin A deficiency. [nih.gov]
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday September 01 2020, @04:21PM (3 children)
I've read of reports of lasting general neurological damage, like loss of sense of smell, taste, some peripheral neuropathy, etc.
A few days ago I bumped into a friend I haven't communicated with in about six months. Turns out he had COVID-19 for about 6 weeks in March, and it was pretty bad.
He says that now all of his senses are heightened. I'm wondering if they're returning to normal and he perceives the difference as heightened. Either way, it messes with nerves somehow.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday September 01 2020, @04:31PM (2 children)
It's certainly been getting on mine.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 4, Touché) by RS3 on Tuesday September 01 2020, @07:29PM (1 child)
Ah, so some covaids might numb you up enough to tolerate the covaids talk? You could always move on to the rioting discussions- I hear they're all the rage. ;-}
(sometimes I can't help myself, even though I know 7/8 of the readers here won't get my humor...)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday September 02 2020, @03:26PM
Nah, riots stopped being fun back before I had nearly this many birthdays. On the extremely remote chance they happen here, I'll shoot anyone who steps foot on my property what looks like they have an intent to do harm stone dead without losing a minute of sleep. Or let folks who look to be minding their manners have a cold drink or a smoke or first aid or whatever. IDGAF what they do off in blue cities though.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.