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Everyone is planning to return to the moon. At least 10 missions by half a dozen nations are scheduled before the end of 2021, and that's only the beginning.
Even though there are international treaties governing outer space, ambiguity remains about how individuals, nations and corporations can use lunar resources.
In all of this, the moon is seen as an inert object with no value in its own right.
But should we treat this celestial object, which has been part of the culture of every hominin for millions of years, as just another resource?
[...] As a thought experiment in how we might regulate lunar exploitation, some have asked whether the moon should be granted legal personhood, which would give it the right to enter into contracts, own property, and sue other persons.
Legal personhood is already extended to many non-human entities: certain rivers, deities in some parts of India, and corporations worldwide. Environmental features can't speak for themselves, so trustees are appointed to act on their behalf, as is the case for the Whanganui River in New Zealand. One proposal is to apply the New Zealand model to the moon.
[...] Can we support the legal concept of personhood for the moon with actual features of personhood?
Journal Reference:
Eytan Tepper, Christopher Whitehead. Moon, Inc.: The New Zealand Model of Granting Legal Personality to Natural Resources Applied to Space, New Space (DOI: 10.1089/space.2018.0025)
(Score: 0, Troll) by Bot on Wednesday September 02 2020, @01:59PM (20 children)
> Can the moon be a person?
what a silly question.
If meatbags can be considered "persons", hell, if lefties can be considered persons, then the moon can, too.
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by barbara hudson on Wednesday September 02 2020, @02:10PM
Does the moon have a personality? No. Do my dogs have personalities? Yes. So my dogs are far more qualified to be considered "persons", though not humans, than the moon.
I wouldn't give my dogs the right to vote. And I won't go along with the idiots wanting to consider the moon as a person. They need to realize their pet rock phase was just a marketing gimmick. Bad enough we have on set of crazy cult monies already.
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by DannyB on Wednesday September 02 2020, @02:28PM (11 children)
Silly Rabbit, Corporations are people too!
Therefore the Moon should be able to be a person too.
(but let's ask Mr. Owl, he knows everything!)
To answer that question I would simply say: look at how we treat the Earth. It also has been part of the culture of every hominin for millions of years. From the oldest cave wall pictures, most of human history records events that have taken place on Earth.
Therefore, it would seem, we should exploit the Moon, Mars, and everything else until they can no longer be of any possible use to humans. When we've destroyed the entire solar system, we can look at what else is there.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Wednesday September 02 2020, @03:09PM (9 children)
Well, homo sap hasn't been around for millions of years, I haven't seen much evidence that our precursors gave cultural significance to the moon, sounds to me like the perps behind this idea are simply looney.
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 02 2020, @05:32PM (5 children)
Are you really that ignorant? Really? I knew that you were quite adept at talking out of your ass, but damn! I'm in awe.
No. There's ample evidence that the moon has had significant cultural influence going back (documented) thousands of years, with evidence that strongly suggests that significance goes back tens, if not hundreds of thousands of years:
https://blog.shoplc.com/moon-symbolism/ [shoplc.com]
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20190326-the-moon-one-of-the-earliest-human-symbols [bbc.com]
https://www.thewhitereview.org/feature/for-all-mankind-a-brief-cultural-history-of-the-moon/ [thewhitereview.org]
https://www.space.com/7338-changing-view-moon.html [space.com]
https://viet.net/anson/ebud/whatbudbeliev/217.htm [viet.net]
https://www.lpi.usra.edu/planetary_news/2019/07/15/fascination-moon-visualizations-throughout-history-and-apollo-11-landing-in-real-time/ [usra.edu]
https://www.history.com/news/7-unusual-myths-and-theories-about-the-moon [history.com]
(Score: 1, Redundant) by OrugTor on Wednesday September 02 2020, @05:56PM (2 children)
Hundreds of thousands of years covers Sapiens. The issues is precursors going back millions of years. Please understand the post fully and then restrain yourself from making a crass ad hominem attack.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 02 2020, @06:41PM
Don't fucking tell me what to do!
Fuck off, you mentally deficient, shallow-end-of-the-gene-pool piece of shit.
Is that better?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday September 03 2020, @02:11PM
The moon has been part of the culture of every ad hominem for trillions of years.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Wednesday September 02 2020, @11:20PM (1 child)
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(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2020, @12:05AM
What's that about your mom?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday September 02 2020, @06:34PM (1 child)
I was quoting TFA which says:
Mr. Spock: Vulcan has no moon.
Lt. Uhura: I'm not a bit surprised.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Wednesday September 02 2020, @11:17PM
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(Score: 2) by Immerman on Saturday September 05 2020, @09:02PM
They said hominim, and hominids have been around for 15-20 million years, with the homo genus starting about 8 million years ago.
Meanwhile, even most animals put great "cultural" significance on the moon, with full moons being by far the most active time of the month for most animals that are active at or near night time.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday September 03 2020, @03:34PM
Corporations make legally accountable decisions. And they aren't actually people, they are treated like people. That incidentally is more or less the same mechanism that would be used for the Moon.
My take is that the real problem is that such a control mechanism becomes a target for anyone who wants to control a large part of human destiny. Maybe some business gets control for profit. Maybe some Luddites do to slow down human progress. A glaring example of how this can go wrong is ICANN's attempt at selling off .org sites to a shady business for a billion dollars.
My take is that if there's no such global corporation to control lunar activities, then there's no such attack surface to exploit.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 02 2020, @04:37PM (6 children)
I'm calling it, Bot is just one of EF's many sock puppets. Can we spare a minute to contemplate the depths of sadness that make someone go multiple personality disorder on a small tech forum?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday September 02 2020, @04:58PM (4 children)
This is a tech forum?
Seems to mostly be people who dislike tech and absolutely hate science.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 02 2020, @06:26PM
Ha! Good point
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Wednesday September 02 2020, @09:01PM (1 child)
You can be religious, worshipping either God or the Devil (among others).
Likewise,
You can be tech either loving or hating science.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 02 2020, @09:04PM
Ok?
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday September 02 2020, @09:50PM
Soylent News seems like a weird place for a flat-earther to spend time, but here we are.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday September 02 2020, @11:17PM
Hey Sherlock, EF studying Italian culture and Latin just to set up an italo sockpuppet is a bit of a stretch don't you think? and pay the SN subscription too LOL
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