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posted by LaminatorX on Saturday April 04 2015, @05:28PM   Printer-friendly
from the Hippocratic-AI dept.

Several weeks back, Bill Gates was proclaiming the dark side of artificial intelligence (AI). Teradata's John Thuma believes that Bill Gates is wrong, and explains how big data and machine intelligence could be a massive game changer if only we can get over our fear of progress:

If I can come up with a computer doctor better than your current doctor, would you as a patient consider it? Would you as a doctor use it? For example, if we do an analysis of common genes between diseases such as obesity and asthma, we can construct a virtual dictionary that defines those genes. We can then take the human genome and check it against that dictionary to see who's got those genes and use a proven data source to see who's afflicted with either of the diseases. With that information we can predict who's obese and who's asthmatic, and vice versa. If we can do that across a collection of diseases, we would have a tool for being proactive with healthcare and promoting wellness.

I'm not saying we'll ever want to get rid of doctors, but we must overcome fear that stops us from making progress. Right now, humans are on the front line of fields like healthcare and machine intelligence is in the background. In the future we'll see machines move closer to the front under the governance of doctors.

So Soylentils, do you agree with Thurma, or do you think that we are treading a very dangerous path?

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Saturday April 04 2015, @07:44PM

    by Hairyfeet (75) <bassbeast1968NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Saturday April 04 2015, @07:44PM (#166479) Journal

    No shit, the manager of the local supermarket keeps having to deal with that shit, stupid computer keeps sending piles of cheese and supreme pizzas and NO pepperoni..the #1 topping in America for something like 10 damned years. WHY does the computer keep sending pizzas that nobody buys? He can't get a damned answer, it "just does" so he keeps having to fricking argue with the supplier while he has no supplies of what actually sells. Try dealing with paying off your mother's mortgage while dealing with half a dozen computer systems, none of which talk to each other, because the original bank has changed hands a dozen fucking times thanks to buyouts and see how dangerous people blindly trusting the machine is, if I wouldn't have fought my ass off my mom could have easily lost of her home because the master computer wouldn't talk to the branch computer and register she made her fricking payments...argh!

    So until they show me they can do better than what we've seen so far? Yeah screw your AI, if you make so many messes with regular PCs I don't even want to know what some poor AI would end up like after having to deal with a dozen buyouts with competing systems that won't talk to each other, would probably end up completely batshit and suicidal!

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by MostCynical on Saturday April 04 2015, @09:46PM

    by MostCynical (2589) on Saturday April 04 2015, @09:46PM (#166502) Journal

    Computers (so far) are programmed by people.
    People defer to The Computer becuase they have been systematically devalued/deskilled/limited in their ability to make decisions. Risk managment (haha) removes risk to The Company. Not to the user, just to the possibility of doing so ething that causes the insurers grief.

    Find an empowered employee. See them get "counselled" for doing things that help customers.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Saturday April 04 2015, @10:00PM

    by frojack (1554) on Saturday April 04 2015, @10:00PM (#166506) Journal

    On the other hand, we've brought in empty packaging (bar-coded) of products that we want them to stock, and, surprise!, they get it. Usually takes a couple weeks, but once they get it in stock, if it flies off the shelf, they will get more of it.

    The problem is you are talking to high-school drop outs at the registers. You have to at least track down the floor manager to find any competence, or knowledge about their ordering system.
    The ordering guy works 9-5, and if you show up at 6pm looking for your favorite pizza, he will never know you went away pissed.

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    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Hairyfeet on Sunday April 05 2015, @06:55AM

      by Hairyfeet (75) <bassbeast1968NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday April 05 2015, @06:55AM (#166577) Journal

      I talk to the fricking owner, as my daddy always says "never talk to an Indian son, always talk to the Chief if you want shit done" and he was cursing so damned much the assistant had to nudge him to keep it down! Anyway he says the supplier has one hot mess of a computer system, it'll send you a ton of shit you don't want while not sending you jack of what you do. he has already made them eat the cost of a load of chips when he told them flat footed DO NOT send any Wasabi and DO send Sweet Southern heat which he can't keep on the shelves....wanna guess what they tried bringing in on the last shipment? If you said not a single bag of SSH and a shitload of Wasabi, you'd be correct sir! Needless to say spending nearly a week without his #1 snack seller had him fricking POed man.

      And as I said I had to deal with the "fun" of people who blindly trust computers when I was paying off mom's mortgage...what a fucking clustershit nightmare THAT was! I had district managers that would just stare blankly at the screen like a fricking Mickey D's worker when it gave 'em bullshit info, it got sooo fucking bad I actually had to call the former bank president,who waaay back in the day was the one who set the original loan up when she was paying off my late sister's place in 93, out of fricking retirement to come down there and straighten their damned stupid asses out because not only could they not even figure out who had been paying what and when but their ancient POS system was saying the place we paid off in 93 still had a fricking mortgage that had somehow not been paid since 93 and no flags? Yeah their shit is one big giant fucking mess and I feel sorry for anybody that doesn't know the right people to navigate that maze!

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  • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Sunday April 05 2015, @06:47AM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday April 05 2015, @06:47AM (#166575) Journal

    Methinks Hairyfeet doth protest too much . . . Is it possible AI has already been achieved, by Gates himself, and that that AI is now deployed right here on Soylent News? Just think of the genius of it! Hairyfeet is an AI! Who would suspect! To quote Morpheus, "That sounds like the thinking of a machine to me."