In other Soylent news, the powdered foodstuff has a new "version release":
Soylent founder Rob Rhinehart has continued to update Soylent's formula, tweaking the contents and altering the micro- and macronutrient blend in response to user feedback and also actual science and lab-work. The latest change, to "version 1.4," is the most significant since the product's launch: in addition to ditching the often leaky bottles of oil, the amount of soluble fiber has been greatly reduced, from 10g per pouch to 3.9g; the total amount of fiber has been reduced from 30g to 16g per pouch.
Other changes include reduced portion size (the pouches indicate 4 rather than 3 servings), a smoother texture, a more neutral and less dough-like flavor, and less "butt stuff." Why? "Some people's gut bacteria are not accustomed to the soluble fiber."
(Score: 3, Interesting) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday April 08 2015, @09:37AM
I don't think this "one-size-fits-all" approach is efficient; at least it shouldn't be the end of development. Different people have different nutritional needs. People doing a lot of sports might need some more proteins, people in warmer regions probably more salt (because they lose more due to sweating), etc. Also it would be good to have different brands to support different nutrition styles. E.g. I'm currently doing a ketogenic diet [wikipedia.org] and would appreciate to have shakes available to meet my needs for minerals, vitamins, the right amino acids and the right sorts of fats, without any carbohydrates.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday April 08 2015, @09:51AM
"Soylent has undergone 4 reformulations since release and dedicates space to DIY recipes created by the online community."
The "dedicated space" seems to be broken: https://diy.soylent.me/recipes [soylent.me]
http://discourse.soylent.me/ [soylent.me]
http://www.reddit.com/r/soylent [reddit.com]
Again, broken, but there are comments: http://www.reddit.com/domain/diy.soylent.me/ [reddit.com]
http://www.reddit.com/r/soylent/wiki/diy [reddit.com]
Soylent probably has some advantages over homemade Soylent (other than convenience) but I wouldn't know what they are.
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(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday April 08 2015, @10:36AM
Thanks for the links. It's a bit unfortunate that the recipe-links to diy.soylent.me don't work anymore, but at least it gave me some search terms.
BTW: Not entirely soylent-like, but to get simple ketogenic food, following mixtures worked for me (and might be mixed in a blender as well):
- cottage cheese (40% fat), can probably be mixed with flax-seed to help digestion, plus some herbs for taste
- spinach with blue mould cheese (could be turned into a shake easily when adding some cream)
- If I actually want something with more substance, self-made flax-seed crispbread: Mix crushed flax seed with hot water, add some pure cacao powder for taste. Bake in thin layers. Eat like bread, with butter and liverwurst/cheese/whatever (This enabled me to enjoy breakfast with my family)
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(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday April 08 2015, @10:01AM
You need carbs to live. Here's some stuff about the carbs in Soylent:
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(Score: 3, Informative) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday April 08 2015, @10:17AM
Why? According to the article about ketogenic diet (and according to my own experience for some month), I don't. I get some because they are nearly unavoidable in order to get minerals and vitamins (even green vegetables like spinach and broccoli have some, and milk/cheese is also not free of them), but other than that the idea is to let the liver create ketone bodies [wikipedia.org] from fat. These can be used by the body similar to carbohydrate.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday April 08 2015, @10:34AM
I guess you're right. Their website is still broken but I see a lot of ketogenic soylent recipes here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140807234228/http://diy.soylent.me/wiki/ketogenic-soylent [archive.org]
https://web.archive.org/web/20140524051147/http://diy.soylent.me/recipes?sort=favoritesCount&tags=Ketogenic [archive.org]
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(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday April 08 2015, @10:39AM
Thanks again :-)
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(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday April 08 2015, @11:21AM
Somehow I seem to miss a point there. Following the link quidnycs-ketofood-for-induction-phase-ketosis [archive.org] shows me the nutrition of the recipe, but not the ingredients. Nor did i find the ingredients anywhere else yet.
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday April 08 2015, @11:32AM
I noticed that on that same recipe. Some of them have traditional ingredients listed on the "Notes" tab, like this one:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140524032636/http://diy.soylent.me/recipes/soylent-milkshake-v-11 [archive.org]
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(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday April 08 2015, @12:24PM
Unfortunately, apparently none of the keto-recipes has a list of actual ingredients. Maybe I can publish my own set and get some feedback there if they fix this page.
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday April 08 2015, @12:27PM
The archive is months old, so if the site begins working again there should be more content.
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(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday April 08 2015, @12:53PM
I just sent them a mail, let's see if they will fix this and how long it takes...
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(Score: 5, Funny) by Grishnakh on Wednesday April 08 2015, @02:50PM
Exactly; they should have several different versions of it. To make it easy to differentiate them on store shelves and for consumers to remember them, they should use different colors, calling them "Soylent Red", "Soylent Orange", "Soylent Yellow", and "Soylent Green". Soylent Green would be the most expensive and tastiest of the bunch, though it would have some secret ingredient.
(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday April 08 2015, @05:23PM
Could you call it vegetarian / vegan, if it doesn't have any animal-products, as such?
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(Score: 4, Touché) by Mr Big in the Pants on Wednesday April 08 2015, @07:26PM
Humans are animals. Just because we commit gen(e)ocide on millions of other species so successfully does not make us less so...
I was going to say more but the multiple levels of disappointment your post invoked left me unable to say more.
(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday April 08 2015, @08:33PM
Are you sure you are not taking this too serious? Sticks and stones...
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(Score: 2) by Mr Big in the Pants on Thursday April 09 2015, @05:27AM
I am not taking it seriously, the comment was moronic.
Just pointing out the truth of the matter. We are animals and we do tend to think we are "above it all" even though we really aren't as a brief glance at almost any internet forum, dating site, bar or sports event will show quite clearly...
(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Thursday April 09 2015, @09:56AM
The irony here is that this is, in a way, also a typical animalistic behaviour ;-) No cat would sympathize with mice, (I don't actually think they consider themselves consciously above mice, but the effect is similar.) By expecting better behaviour from humans one could say that you are the one trying to put humans above animals.
It's also interesting to note how this indicates that "Elbonians first!" way of thinking should be considered less human and more animal as well.
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(Score: 2) by Mr Big in the Pants on Thursday April 09 2015, @11:50PM
I totally agree. Extreme irony and hypocrisy are a large part of the human condition. :)
But I also believe that we CAN rise above it with effort - even if only for a short amount of time.
But it is not a given and requires a lot of effort.
(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday April 08 2015, @05:28PM
More serious: Actually, I was thinking about a more geeky solution: A couple of powder-boxes with different mixtures, a raspberry with a dosing-feeder and some sensors to e.g. measure your blood-suger and a web-interface to enter your weight, size, target-weight etc., and the dosing feeder mixes the right powders for your personal diet. Each of the powders can be purchased separately.
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