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posted by on Thursday April 09 2015, @05:55AM   Printer-friendly
from the my-processor-can-beat-up-your-processor dept.

According to VR World and HPCwire, the U.S. government has blacklisted "high technology" shipments to the National Supercomputing Center Changsha (NSCC-CS), National Supercomputing Center Guangzhou (NSCC-GZ), National Supercomputing Center Tianjin (NSCC-TJ), and the National University of Defense Technology (NUDT) in China. This effectively means that these major supercomputing facilities can no longer purchase Intel Xeon chips. Tianhe-2, the world's fastest supercomputer since June 2013 according to Top500, is located at the NUDT in Guangzhou and uses a total of 32,000 Intel Xeon and 48,000 Xeon Phi chips.

The main claim of the Bureau of Industry and Security's End-User Review Committee (ERC) is that NUDT, which used US-manufactured parts to produce the Tianhe-1A and Tianhe-2 supercomputers located at the National Supercomputing Centers in Changsha, Guangzhou, and Tianjin, is believed to be engaged in activities related to nuclear explosives.

The U.S. also uses supercomputers for nuclear weapons research.

The news coincides with the Intel Developer Forum 2015 in Shenzhen, China, at which the company announced new Braswell, SoFIA, and Cherry Trail chips, among other products. VR World speculates that the move could cost Intel $1 billion on lost Broadwell-EP Xeon E5v4 sales and accelerate the development of homegrown Chinese processors.

 
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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by c0lo on Thursday April 09 2015, @06:37AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 09 2015, @06:37AM (#168203) Journal

    That's a pretty pathetic and useless gesture.

    May be a bit worse than that.
    Seems like a pissing contest is in progress, on who has the fasterest super-computer [pcworld.com].
    If so, I wonder what's the fuss? Like... why having the biggest dick matters when it comes to supercomputing? Does it matter enough to hurt your own industry?

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by t-3 on Thursday April 09 2015, @07:48AM

    by t-3 (4907) on Thursday April 09 2015, @07:48AM (#168215)

    International politics is just gangbanging on a grand scale. It doesn't make sense because it shouldn't to any rational minded modern human.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by hendrikboom on Thursday April 09 2015, @01:23PM

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 09 2015, @01:23PM (#168308) Homepage Journal

    Supercomputers are nowadays essential for weather forecasting.

    And superior weather forecasting was essential in timing the successful D-day invasion years before I was even born.

    I'm not sure there's a valid syllogism here, but...

    • (Score: 2) by opinionated_science on Thursday April 09 2015, @02:32PM

      by opinionated_science (4031) on Thursday April 09 2015, @02:32PM (#168347)

      and drug design, nuclear weapons safety, fusion reactor models and design, car design, airplane design, clinical statistics etc...

      Computers (super or not) are the the engine that turns ideas into things that can be manufactured, for much less physical outlay.

      The more detail you need, the more maths you need, the bigger the computer you need.

      Many physical problem scale at N^2 or worse...

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday April 09 2015, @09:03PM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 09 2015, @09:03PM (#168496) Journal

        The more detail you need, the more maths you need, the bigger the computer you need.

        Would purely the need is the driver, why not: "we built it because we need it", but "we must build a bigger one only because China beat us. And to make sure it won't happen again soon, we embargo the tech for China"?

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